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Elchin Asgarli
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Joined: Mar 08, 2010
Posts: 222

Hi everyone! First of all I would like to thank all of you for helping me passing SCJP 6 examination with 91%!

Now I would like to register for SCJD examination and I have few questions:

First of all how does registration process depend on the country you live/want to take the essay exam? It seems like there are some big reorganizations going on with Sun's website since acquisition by Oracle, so there are frequent updates. Before for every country there was a separate website and you could register for a given country and their appropriate price, and now it seems to me that there is only once place for registering for assignment, and later you can register for an essay wherever you want. Is this true?
My main purpose of getting interested in this was because prices for exams in different countries varied. I reside in Germany, and last time I checked Sun's training website for Germany, the price for SCJD assignment exam was at around 350€, when in Spain and Portugal the same exam was for 240€. The essay was 235€ in Germany and 240 in Spain and Portugal, so overall it would worth for me to actually register for an examination in Spain and travel there with Ryanair to give examination and see beautiful places
So how does overall registration process work now? Can someone please give me a clue?

Thank you all!

Elchin

P.S. I made a mistake in my first post, the price in Germany is 350€


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Angela Gabrieala
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Joined: Mar 10, 2010
Posts: 1
Hi

Have you managed to register?
I tried but after creating account on prometric.com
the only exam I can choose is 310-301A - Sun Certified Enterprise Architect EE5 Assignment (Part II) - English (US) - $125.00 USD
but I would like to see CX-310-252A exam there

Price now is $125.00 USD..are they changing it again and again?
Elchin Asgarli
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Angela Gabrieala wrote:Hi

Have you managed to register?
I tried but after creating account on prometric.com
the only exam I can choose is 310-301A - Sun Certified Enterprise Architect EE5 Assignment (Part II) - English (US) - $125.00 USD
but I would like to see CX-310-252A exam there

Price now is $125.00 USD..are they changing it again and again?


No, I did not proceed to registration, since my question about counties is unanswered

I did see the price of 125$ for SCJD assignment though, and I am surprised with it Did they really drop the price from 300$ to 125$? Unbelievable..
Elchin Asgarli
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Joined: Mar 08, 2010
Posts: 222

So here is what I found right now :



http://de.sun.com/training/catalog/courses/CX-310-252A.xml

First page indicates assignment exam costs 90 Euros, second one says 350 Euros.

Should I just wait until Sun-Oracle transition is done?

P.S. I had to include first URL in code because this forum does not allow usage of word "p l s" (without spaces)
Roel De Nijs
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Joined: Jul 19, 2004
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Hi Elchin,

I can't answer your initial question (because my former company paid the vouchers and registration was in 2007), but what will you do if you are on holiday in Spain, planned your essay exam and then the exam is cancelled for some reason? When I wanted to take my SCJP6 at the end of last year they had to cancel my exam (because the exam center had to close unexpectedly). So reschedule and plan another exam in Spain?

According to the Sun Certification page on the Oracle University the 1st part is 125 us dollars and the 2nd part is 300 us dollars. If you visit the Sun page on Prometric site you can have a look at the exam fees for the different exams in different countries: part 2 of the exam is approx 235-240 euros (in belgium, germany and spain).

I would suggest trying to contact the sun educational services of germany and trying to get answers on your questions, so you are 100% sure about what you can do and can't do.

Kind regards,
Roel


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Eric Turner
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Joined: May 07, 2003
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Angela Gabrieala wrote:Hi

Have you managed to register?
I tried but after creating account on prometric.com
the only exam I can choose is 310-301A - Sun Certified Enterprise Architect EE5 Assignment (Part II) - English (US) - $125.00 USD
but I would like to see CX-310-252A exam there

Price now is $125.00 USD..are they changing it again and again?


I just tried to register for the SCJD exam and only saw 310-301A as an option. I emailed Prometric's help desk and received a response that said
OK, this exam is currently offline. You may need to contact SUN directly to confirm when the exam will be available. Here is the e-mail address:


certification@sun.com

Here is your case reference number: ...


When I find out what is happening I will post the information here.
R Conlon
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Joined: Mar 12, 2010
Posts: 3
I'm experiencing the same issue with regards to registering for the SCJD exam...only the Enterprise Architect EE5 Assignment (Part II) is available.

I emailed suncert@prometric.com, ip.helpdesk@prometric.com and certification@sun.com over the last week, but I've had no replies from any of them.

Weird.
Elchin Asgarli
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Joined: Mar 08, 2010
Posts: 222

Roel De Nijs wrote:Hi Elchin,

I can't answer your initial question (because my former company paid the vouchers and registration was in 2007), but what will you do if you are on holiday in Spain, planned your essay exam and then the exam is cancelled for some reason? When I wanted to take my SCJP6 at the end of last year they had to cancel my exam (because the exam center had to close unexpectedly). So reschedule and plan another exam in Spain?


I actually did not consider this case, but that could be an excuse for one more vacation in Spain

Roel De Nijs wrote:
I would suggest trying to contact the sun educational services of germany and trying to get answers on your questions, so you are 100% sure about what you can do and can't do.


I called them now, they are only available at working times, so I will try again on monday. I just hope they speak English, cause my German is very limited
Roel De Nijs
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Elchin Asgarli wrote:I called them now, they are only available at working times, so I will try again on monday. I just hope they speak English, cause my German is very limited
That would be no problem (at least here in Belgium )

Kind regards,
Roel
R Conlon
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Joined: Mar 12, 2010
Posts: 3
Hi,

I received an update about registering for the exam:

We are sorry for the delay in replying to your mail, the responses have been delayed due to the Oracle /Sun migration.

We also apologize for the delay in this assignment process, but we are moving this registration and download to Prometric. We are currently still ironing out the details and we will send you further instructions as soon as possible. Thank you for your patience.
Regards,
OCP Team


After this gets sorted, then hopefully we'll know how much the thing costs and we can register happily!
Elchin Asgarli
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Joined: Mar 08, 2010
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Roel De Nijs wrote:That would be no problem (at least here in Belgium )


I can write a book about what a problem it is not knowing German in Germany But in this case the person I called in Sun did speak English

So here are updates : They told me they have not moved to oracle system yet, so the price in Germany Sun website is correct ( 380€ ). And they also told me that I have to give the essay in the country I registered for the exam, thus if I register in Germany, I have to give essay in Germany.

I guess I will wait a bit with registration, maybe Oracle migration will complete in Germany as well, since I really don't feel like paying 380€ when in US price is 125$ (95€).
Elchin Asgarli
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So here is another URL, http://www.oracle.com/global/us/education/sun_select_country.html, here if you mouse over links for every country, you can see where they redirect, Sun website, or Oracle. As I see, migration is complete in US, Canada, Australia and New Zealand only, and in other countries its still old Sun.
Christiaan Lombard
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Joined: Nov 22, 2009
Posts: 26
I'm from South-Africa and I am having the same problems. Sun and Oracle have not migrated in SA yet which makes things even more complicated.

I found 2 places to buy the SCJD voucher for Step 1 from. Oracle charges R1065 (South-African Rand, excl. VAT), while Sun South-Africa charges R1900. So I emailed the Sun South-Africa representative to clear this up and she replied:



Hi Christiaan

Kindly be advised that there is a delay in the processing of SCJD Step 1 (Assignment) due to the migration from SUN to Oracle systems.

Sun Certification should still be purchased from SUN in the Sub-Sahara Africa region, until Oracle & SUN SSA are legally intergrated.

The price for SCJD is as follows:
Step 1: CX-310-252A R2,166 incl Vat
Step 2: CX-310-027 R1,824 incl Vat

Payment can be in the form of a direct transfer or deposit into Sun's
account:
Reference: EDU (Your name)

Account Name :...

Please email proof of payment to my attention.There
after I will process your ORDER request.

Upon completion of this process, your voucher number will be released to you.
You may register with Prometric to schedule your exam with just your voucher number.



I mean, wtf. She wants me to pay double than I would if I bought it through Oracle. And then she mentions registering with Prometric which isn't even possible.


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Krish baskar
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Joined: Dec 23, 2007
Posts: 10
Christiaan Lombard wrote:I mean. She wants me to pay double than I would if I bought it through Oracle. And then she mentions registering with Prometric which isn't even possible.


NEW Exam Registration Process

Candidates will no longer need a voucher to register for Sun exams at Prometric. Candidates will follow a simpler process of registration by simply registering for their exams as they always do at www.prometric.com/sun and entering credit card information when they get to the payment screen. Individuals will no longer be able to purchase exam vouchers from Oracle. All exam payments should be provided directly to Prometric in the form of a credit card.

This will save time for the candidate and make exam registration a smoother process.

Partners and Resellers may still purchase exam vouchers from Oracle University.

Pricing for Sun exams
To simplify pricing for Sun Certification Exams, Oracle is announcing all Sun exams will be sold for $300US with country-specific pricing in certain countries. Pricing may vary slightly by country or by localized currency. Check Prometric’s website for exact pricing in your country.

http://education.oracle.com/pl@s/web_prod-plq-dad/db_pages.getpage?page_id=318

remove @ from above URL
Krish baskar
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Joined: Dec 23, 2007
Posts: 10
Christiaan Lombard wrote:I mean, wtf. She wants me to pay double than I would if I bought it through Oracle. And then she mentions registering with Prometric which isn't even possible.


Have a look at this:
NEW Exam Registration Process
Candidates will no longer need a voucher to register for Sun exams at Prometric. Candidates will follow a simpler process of registration by simply registering for their exams as they always do at www.prometric.com/sun and entering credit card information when they get to the payment screen. Individuals will no longer be able to purchase exam vouchers from Oracle. All exam payments should be provided directly to Prometric in the form of a credit card.

This will save time for the candidate and make exam registration a smoother process.

Partners and Resellers may still purchase exam vouchers from Oracle University.

Pricing for Sun exams
To simplify pricing for Sun Certification Exams, Oracle is announcing all Sun exams will be sold for $300US with country-specific pricing in certain countries. Pricing may vary slightly by country or by localized currency. Check Prometric’s website for exact pricing in your country.


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Roel De Nijs
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Posts: 5597
    
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That's too bad: I don't have a credit card
Harry Henriques
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Joined: Jun 17, 2009
Posts: 206
Hello,

I don't know if you will consider this "hijacking" your thread, but I took the essay exam on February 10th. I haven't heard whether or not I have been awarded the SCJD certification, nor have I heard about my score on the SCJD assignment. It is going on 7 weeks since I submitted the assignment and took the essay exam. I don't know if anyone has noticed, but no one has posted their results for the SCJD certification on JavaRanch since the beginning of February.

I'm not even sure that Oracle is presently grading the assignments that they are receiving. I write emails to suncert_ww@oracle.com and they return form letters with platitudes.

Harry Henriques
Elchin Asgarli
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Joined: Mar 08, 2010
Posts: 222

Krish baskar wrote:
Christiaan Lombard wrote:I mean. She wants me to pay double than I would if I bought it through Oracle. And then she mentions registering with Prometric which isn't even possible.


NEW Exam Registration Process

Candidates will no longer need a voucher to register for Sun exams at Prometric. Candidates will follow a simpler process of registration by simply registering for their exams as they always do at www.prometric.com/sun and entering credit card information when they get to the payment screen. Individuals will no longer be able to purchase exam vouchers from Oracle. All exam payments should be provided directly to Prometric in the form of a credit card.

This will save time for the candidate and make exam registration a smoother process.

Partners and Resellers may still purchase exam vouchers from Oracle University.

Pricing for Sun exams
To simplify pricing for Sun Certification Exams, Oracle is announcing all Sun exams will be sold for $300US with country-specific pricing in certain countries. Pricing may vary slightly by country or by localized currency. Check Prometric’s website for exact pricing in your country.

http://education.oracle.com/pl@s/web_prod-plq-dad/db_pages.getpage?page_id=318

remove @ from above URL


How new is this? When did this appear?
Does this mean I can just ignore existence of German Sun training, and simply register for an assignment through Oracle and then just give examination through prometric?
Elchin Asgarli
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Joined: Mar 08, 2010
Posts: 222

Roel De Nijs wrote:That's too bad: I don't have a credit card


Why don't you get one?
Roel De Nijs
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Joined: Jul 19, 2004
Posts: 5597
    
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Elchin Asgarli wrote:Why don't you get one?

For several reasons: you have to pay for it to get one, I don't have any need for it (until I want to register ), credit card fraud happens now and then,...
Nitin Garg nishu
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Joined: Jan 24, 2010
Posts: 6
[edit] don't hijack someone else's topic, that's not nice at all. This discussion can be continued in this thread


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Nitin Mundhe
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Joined: Sep 19, 2009
Posts: 5
what if i don't have credit card?
isn't there any to pay in cash??


Nits (SCJP 91%)
Elchin Asgarli
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Joined: Mar 08, 2010
Posts: 222

Hi everyone, I have some updates :

So right now German Oracle Training website is saying that price is 215€ and clearly states that "Candidates no longer need to purchase vouchers prior to taking an exam. Please pay Prometric directly for your exam during registration."

On contrary German Sun Training Website is selling a voucher which is 380€. (Is it selling a voucher or an actual exam registration? Please anyone knowing German help me )

If I call German Sun Training, they tell me transition is not complete so you still have to buy it from German Sun Training because you reside in Germany. (Reside? I thought SCJD is internet-based exam, how on earth does it matter where I reside??)

My logic tells me right now that I can ignore what German Sun training said, and simply register from https://ibt1.prometric.com/index.asp?ibt=9217340350&, and after that purchase essay examination from prometric, where I believe they should not have problems with me being in Germany, Brazil or anywhere in the world.
 
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