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arun r mehta
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Hi guys,

Iam in dilemma....I started my career in 2008 sept with global technology-consulting-outsourcing company based in mumbai, after working for it in java/j2ee for 9 months... I left the job on personal reasons and shifted to hyderabad, since I came in may 2009 due to recession I could not find job for 4 months... the first interview after my first job was in august 2009 which was paying me 50% of what I was payed in my previous company.... after discussion and negotiation for 1 month...they paid me 25% less than my previous company...since I didnt had any other option that was the only way out to get into job since I had already a gap of 4 months...so started my second job in oct 2009... my current company is telecom product dev. company and I am working on java/j2ee ... I am not keen to switch now...but I started getting calls from consultancies regarding openings in xyz telecom prod. dev. company based in pune which fits my exp...

i went for written test and tech. interview and cleared both the rounds... I am expecting a HR telephonic round... I don't know whehter they will consider me a job hopper..but I really want to shift now as it is very good opurtunity for me to switch and work in very good company having good work environments, projects..and also its a well known pay master...
I don't know how much I should expect but really confused now..
do companies see the previous CTC only or could consider my CTC which was paid to me in my first job which was decent enough..also do they consider performance in the interview..as I did very well in the interview and answered all the questions correctly in the interview...

I will not be interested to shift if they give me 20-30% hike from my current CTC...which will still not make it equal to what I was earning in my first job... I am expecting 100% hike..and also my potential employer pays 100% more than what Iam earning to freshers so atleast I expect they can pay me atleast that much...

please help


-arun


Pushkar Choudhary
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tarun k navlani wrote:I don't know whehter they will consider me a job hopper..

They will, IMO, because you worked in your first company for only 9 months and its been only about 6 months in the current one.

tarun k navlani wrote:do companies see the previous CTC only or could consider my CTC which was paid to me in my first job which was decent enough

In most cases any interviewer would only see your current CTC and NOT the past ones.

tarun k navlani wrote:also do they consider performance in the interview

Most definitely.
Campbell Ritchie
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100% more than "freshers" when you have barely over a year's experience? You really are an incurable optimist, aren't you
arun r mehta
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100% more than "freshers" when you have barely over a year's experience? You really are an incurable optimist, aren't you

Actually what I meant was, if my current CTC is X the company whre I have given the interview pays 2X to freshers who are fresh passouts from normal colleges( not IIT/NITs)... so how can they pay less than bare minimum of what they pay to freshers hires from campus to 1+yrs exp. guy

Also the company is product development company and capable of paying good amount, apart from that I did very well in the interviews...so I am hoping for the best...
Ulf Dittmer
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how can they pay less than bare minimum of what they pay to freshers hires from campus to 1+yrs exp. guy

The question is not who has worked for longer in their career, the question is who is considered worth more to a company. There's a lot more to that than the number of years since graduation. (Note that I'm speaking in the abstract, as I have no knowledge of the concrete situation.)


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arun r mehta
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The question is not who has worked for longer in their career, the question is who is considered worth more to a company. There's a lot more to that than the number of years since graduation. (Note that I'm speaking in the abstract, as I have no knowledge of the concrete situation.)

If this is the case then certainly I deserve a higher pay than a fresher as I bring more value on the table... worked with similar industry for 1+ yrs also have fair knowledge of the domain and I had already impressed the interviewer about it..

the final decesion would be taken by HR only... whether they want to Hire me or not... pay is secondary thing whr I'll put my negotiation skills...
Ulf Dittmer
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If this is the case then certainly I deserve a higher pay than a fresher as I bring more value on the table... worked with similar industry for 1+ yrs also have fair knowledge of the domain and I had already impressed the interviewer about it..

I think you missed my point, which was that the worth to a company is based on a lot more than what you mention here. One year of experience is not much. Being perceived as a potential job hopper would severely discount the person's value. A seemingly impressed interviewer would be a good thing if he was sincere, which is not necessarily the case. And so on...
Henry Wong
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Agreed. One year of experience, when the applicant is applying for his/her third job is not good. Given the choice, I would choose the "fresher" as there is a better chance that the "fresher" will be a long term employee.

With the job hopper, either this person was constantly fired for some reason, or is constantly looking for more greener pastures -- or maybe even both. One+ year experience, is hardly that much more value, while at the same time, a job-hopper, brings on a lot more risk.

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arun r mehta
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finally, I am done with HR discussion and they are ready to give 120% hike from my current pay(which is way too less compared to average industry standards)..

Interviewer was more interested to know Y I am leaving my current company and wasnt concerned about number of hops I made....
They did paid as per performance in the interviews and not on my current pay..

arulk pillai
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They did pay as per performance in the interviews and not based on my current pay..


That is what it should be. The more comprehensive the interview process is, the better chance of negotiating better rates based on your performance. You can't really go by just the number of years of experience.

-- Some may have solid 1 year experience whilst others have 1 year repeated 3 times.

-- Some are more pro-active and fast learners than the others.

Congrats and keep up the good work. Care should be taken not make hopping a habit Find ways to grow within the company as well.


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Kj Reddy
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You are still initial stage of your career. Do not look for money, just stay in your current company if you are liking the work and learning something. 25% hike may not be much when it come to your net salary after taxes. And you may get hike(may be better %) in current company if you can proof you are worth to them but, it might take time in new company to get hike and to proof yourself.

I seen many people who stayed with a company for longer period are in better position and getting more or less same salaries as people who changed jobs very frequently.

My advise is for short term money gains do not change the company.
 
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