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DreamCar: Destination Market and Car Model - red herring?

Tomasz Romanowski
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I've seen those questions posted around and I have to say I have a similar dilemma. Are Destination Market and Car Model of any relevance to the system? They are definitely essential to the inventory system since in order to be able to determine the demand for parts it needs to know the demand for a specific car model for a specific destination market. However, they don't necessarily matter the SUD. Assuming that one part type can be used amongst different car models and this destination markets the company should want to take advantage of that and design the inventory to combine the demand for same part types across multiple car models and destination markets and allow the system to procure accordingly. Thus, the only thing that would matter to the SUD is the part type, quantity and the desired date. One request for parts might be satisfying the demand for multiple car models for multiple destination markets which makes the two completely irrelevant and consequently wipes them out of the picture and any design diagrams. The alternative would be to tie each request to a specific car model and the destination market which sounds like a very inefficient approach to procuring subparts.
Tomasz Romanowski
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On the other hand the assignment reads:
"state of the art stock inventory system that predicts demand for components up to one month in advance so that orders for a specific marketplace can be manually placed into a reverse auctioneering application to get the best possible price for the parts required"
That makes no sense to me. To get the best price you would want to combine the request amongst different destination markets to maximize your purchasing power. So much for the "state of the art" inventory system.
Ionut Bucurescu
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Model and market can be used also as search criteria. They are relevant for sure for both external systems.
Moreover some of the suppliers might be competitive or able/allowed to do business only on specific markets.


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Joao Bosco Jares
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Ionut Bucurescu,

why did you think that "suppliers might be competitive or able/allowed to do business only on specific markets"? I didn´t understand your position, can you explain?

I started to think that "Destination Market" and "MarketPlace" can be different things. So, why I can limit the suppliers by Destination Market? The Destination Market can be very interesting for sales but not so well for purchase, isn´t? So, what meaning “MarketPlace”?

Can "Destination Market" interfering on the price of the parts? I think if the part will be sale as a part of a car model that have I high price in a specific "Destination Market", I will can pay better for these parts too, and the opposite too, isn´t?

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Rishi Shehrawat
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In my opinion the destination market might be important as the cost of supplying to different markets may vary due difference in transport/freight costs.
Joao Bosco Jares
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Rishi Shehrawat wrote:In my opinion the destination market might be important as the cost of supplying to different markets may vary due difference in transport/freight costs.


I think this way too, and because it Im planing to use a entity such a logistic entity to trate this things, what do you think about it?

regards,
ash Pandey
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Using logistics migt not be desirable here.
The supplier who is bidding for a particular request for a particular market will definitely take in to consideration the transportation cost and then place his bid accordingly.
Logistics is the responsibility of the supplier and the procurer who desires the current system need not worry about it.

I just feel that in a bid you should have the following details:
Component type
quantity
destination (region where it is required).

This information is just enough for the supplier to calculate his best price to quote
Joao Bosco Jares
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ash Pandey wrote:Using logistics migt not be desirable here.
The supplier who is bidding for a particular request for a particular market will definitely take in to consideration the transportation cost and then place his bid accordingly.
Logistics is the responsibility of the supplier and the procurer who desires the current system need not worry about it.

I just feel that in a bid you should have the following details:
Component type
quantity
destination (region where it is required).

This information is just enough for the supplier to calculate his best price to quote


Ash,

Your logic is apparently correct, but why the supplier need to know the destination market, once the destination market is not the manufacture place, do you understand? If the company has one place, with a lower cost factory, a place such as CHINA, INDIA or BRAZIL where salary and taxies is more attractive, so the company can sale in other countries and the logistic will be under the company responsible.

Well, but I am Brazilian and English is not my native language, I can be interpreted in the wrong way the assingment, or not. What´s your thoughts about it?



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ash Pandey
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Hi Joao,
AS per my understanding by putting market place the procurer is providing the information about the place where he intends to get the delivery.

With this infor the supplier will be able to calculate his shipment cost and quote the price accordingly.

I would also put this in my assumption.
Joao Bosco Jares
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ash Pandey wrote:Hi Joao,
AS per my understanding by putting market place the procurer is providing the information about the place where he intends to get the delivery.

With this infor the supplier will be able to calculate his shipment cost and quote the price accordingly.

I would also put this in my assumption.


Sounds good to me!
Nilessh Ganu
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So does it means like "Destination Market" will not be part of the Class diagram as it will probably used by external inventory system ?
Are we allowed to leave out one of the domain objects by just listing this in assumption list ?


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Joao Bosco Jares
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Nilessh Ganu wrote:So does it means like "Destination Market" will not be part of the Class diagram as it will probably used by external inventory system ?
Are we allowed to leave out one of the domain objects by just listing this in assumption list ?


I think this entity is so important. I suggest that you follow the domain to the maximum.
 
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