confused about the usage of JSP tags

I am kind of confused about the usage of tags...
Like to set the property of a bean we can use

<jsp:useBean id="useThis" class="com.model.Car" scope="page" > (If a bean does not exist then a bean can be created )
<jsp:setProperty>
</jsp:useBean>
or
<c:set var=useThis scope="page" value="value" /> (bean can also be created like this)

but now sure which one is better and why....

and
To display the bean property we can use
<jsp:useBean>
<jsp:getProperty>
</jsp:useBean>
or
<c: out value="${useThis.name}" default="not set" />

Is there is any kind of rule when to use one thing but not the other... I mean how is the choice made

Similarly, i am not sure which one to choose between EL and <jsp:getProperty>
please guide me !!

James Tharakan wrote:I am kind of confused about the usage of tags...
Like to set the property of a bean we can use

<jsp:useBean id="useThis" class="com.model.Car" scope="page" > (If a bean does not exist then a bean can be created )
<jsp:setProperty>
</jsp:useBean>
or
<c:set var=useThis scope="page" value="value" /> (bean can also be created like this)

Modern <c:set> is preferred over the venerable and wordier setProperty.

but now sure which one is better and why....

I wouldn't say either one was "better", but since you'll be using the JSTL for other things (iterations, for example) sticking with JSTL tags makes for consistency.

And, no, you cannot create a bean with <c:set>. For that, you'd still use <jsp:useBean> -- when you create beans in a JSP at all, that is.

Is there is any kind of rule when to use one thing but not the other

Here the EL is the preferred mechanism.

getProperty and setProperty are old tags from the days before the JSTL and EL. I'd always use the modern equivalent.

Modern <c:set> is preferred over the venerable and wordier setProperty.

how is it venerable ??

And, no, you cannot create a bean with <c:set>.

Actually i forgot to add the bean tag in the post

when you create beans in a JSP at all.

Were you trying to say that we don't really create beans in JSP

James Tharakan wrote:

Modern <c:set> is preferred over the venerable and wordier setProperty.

how is it venerable ??

venerable == old and stately

when you create beans in a JSP at all.

Were you trying to say that we don't really create beans in JSP

In a properly structured Model 2 application, most beans will be created in controllers, not in JSPs.

The older tags you are asking about were much more important back in the days before Model 2, JSP 2, and the JSTL and EL.

So as i understand , in current development the use of scriplets and expressions are not used. And Standard action tags are not preferred much.

Correct me if i am wrong.

Thanks.

That's pretty much it. Scriptlets are most definitely out. A number of the standard actions have more modern alternatives.

The Venerable Bear Bibeault wrote:venerable == old and stately

Well, one outta two ain't bad...

I wanted to be a little less harsh than "antiquated".