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Alvin chew
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hi, Mr.John Carnell, welcome, i have a question in your book Pro Jakarta Struts, is this book for novice ?

i have basic java knowledge, will it benefit to me ? thank you !
Alvin chew
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is this book focus on struts 1.1 or 1.2 ?
Alvin chew
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where is the official web site to get a look for table of contents ?
Ko Ko Naing
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hi, Mr.John Carnell, welcome, i have a question in your book Pro Jakarta Struts, is this book for novice ?

i have basic java knowledge, will it benefit to me ? thank you !

This thread will help you to have an idea about the level of the book and the prerequisites needed to read the book...

is this book focus on struts 1.1 or 1.2 ?

According to the Mr.Dirk Schreckmann's review on Amazon, the content of the book is based on the Struts 1.1, but he said that "It covers Struts 1.1 well, but it doesn't stop where Struts leaves off." It means that the book might introduce about the Struts 1.2 as well...

where is the official web site to get a look for table of contents ?

Here it is!!!


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Ko Ko Naing
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I just found out one more thread, which discusses about the level of the book... Here it is.

Hope it helps...
Alvin chew
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thank , ko ko , i find out the URL for table of contents , perhaps it help other as well ..Table of Contents

Table Of Contents

Chapter 1 What We Do Wrong: Web Antipatterns Explained
Chapter 2 Struts Fundamentals
Chapter 3 Form Presentation and Validation with Struts
Chapter 4 Managing Business Logic with Struts
Chapter 5 Architecting the Data Access Tier with ObjectRelationalBridge
Chapter 6 Building Flexible Front-Ends with the Tiles Framework
Chapter 7 Dynamic Forms and the Struts Validator Framework
Chapter 8 Speeding Struts Development with XDoclet
Chapter 9 Logging and Debugging
Chapter 10 Velocity Template Engine
Chapter 11 Extending the Struts Framework
Appendix A JavaEdge Setup and Installation
Appendix B Struts Development Tools
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Alvin chew
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Mr.John Carnell, for the chapter 1 - web antipattern explain , can you briefly explain what is it about ?
Alvin chew
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is this book focus on practical as well, i don't like theory based as i found it difficult to understand as compare to practical sample

or perhaps , how many percent cover for code sample ?
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Ko Ko Naing
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Originally posted by Alvin chew:
is this book focus on practical as well, i don't like theory based as i found it difficult to understand as compare to practical sample


Babla in this thread asked the exact same question as yours... As I haven't read the book yet, we'd better wait for others who have read the book to reply us...
Alvin chew
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i see the book "Struts Survival Guide: Basics to Best Practices " recommended in amazon as given discount by buying both, is it under same publisher ? anyone have comments on this book ?
Ko Ko Naing
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Originally posted by Alvin chew:
i see the book "Struts Survival Guide: Basics to Best Practices " recommended in amazon as given discount by buying both, is it under same publisher ? anyone have comments on this book ?


No, they are not from the same publisher? "Struts Survival Guide: Basics to Best Practices" is from Objectsource, while Pro Jakarta Struts is from Apress, which is known to be former Wrox...

Anyway, this thread might be useful for you to get to know with that book... There was a book promotion on that book in the Ranch before... U can search with the word "Struts Survival", using the searching utility of this forum.... You will see a long list of threads, discussing about that book...

Hope it helps...
Alvin chew
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hi, Mr.John Carnell , what version of tomcat you recommend as best part with struts 1.1 ? tomcat 4 or 5 ?
Surasak Leenapongpanit
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I think there is no difference among Tomcat versions 4 or 5. However if you want to get new features of Servlet 2.4 and JSP2, you need Tomcat5.x.
Alvin chew
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hi, mr.john carnell , from Chapter 6 Building Flexible Front-Ends with the Tiles Framework, do your mentioned on the performance on tiles and is it compulsory to use tile in front-end ? it suit for every layout ?
somkiat puisungnoen
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Originally posted by Alvin chew:
hi, Mr.John Carnell , what version of tomcat you recommend as best part with struts 1.1 ? tomcat 4 or 5 ?




Tomcat 5.x is the current release of Tomcat, and builds upon the Tomcat 3.3 and Tomcat 4.1 codebases. The 5.x releases implement the Servlet 2.4 and JSP 2.0 specifications.

Tomcat 5.0.x. Tomcat 5.0 improves on Tomcat 4.1 in many ways, including:

Performance optimizations and reduced garbage collection
Refactored application deployer, with an optional standalone deployer allowing validation and compilation of a web application before putting it in production
Complete server monitoring using JMX and the manager web application
Scalability and reliability enhancements
Improved Taglibs handling, including advanced pooling and tag plugins
Improved platform integration, with native Windows and Unix wrappers
Embedding of Tomcat using JMX
Enhanced Security Manager support
Integrated session clustering
Expanded documentation


Tomcat 4.x implements a new servlet container (called Catalina) that is based on completely new architecture. The 4.x releases implement the Servlet 2.3 and JSP 1.2 specifications.

Tomcat 4.1.x. Tomcat 4.1 is a refactoring of Tomcat 4.0.x, and contains significant enhancements, including:

JMX based administration features
JSP and Struts based administration web application
New Coyote connector (HTTP/1.1, AJP 1.3 and JNI support)
Rewritten Jasper JSP page compiler
Performance and memory efficiency improvements
Enhanced manager application support for integration with development tools
Custom Ant tasks to interact with the manager application directly from build.xml scripts

Tomcat 4.0.x. Tomcat 4.0.6 is the old production quality release. The 4.0 servlet container (Catalina) has been developed from the ground up for flexibility and performance. Version 4.0 implements the final released versions of the Servlet 2.3 and JSP 1.2 specifications. As required by the specifications, Tomcat 4.0 also supports web applications built for the Servlet 2.2 and JSP 1.1 specifications with no changes.


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Alvin chew
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thank you somkiat
Alvin chew
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hi, Mr.John Carnell, should we use dynaform instead of actionform in struts ?
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Hi Alvin,

Thanks for the enthusiasm. As for your last question?

Should we use dynactionforms instead of actionforms?

It really depends on how your app is being used? If your web forms are simple without complex validation rules, DynaForms will allow you to quickly build out your screens without a lot of code.

However, if you have complex validation rules or complex forms DynaForms become increasingly difficult to work with.

Thanks,
John


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Alvin chew
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thank you , john !!
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somkiat puisungnoen
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if you have complex validation rules or complex forms DynaForms become increasingly difficult to work with


In this case , i'm should be use ActionForm or not ??
Alvin chew
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hi, can tiles work on any template layout ? in other word, how flexible of tiles ?

say if i suppose design a layout with 3 frames, top, bottom left, and bottom right frame, for bottom left i have 3 links, when link 1 is clicked, the top frame will shown belongs link, and also for link2 and link3,
for bottom right frame, when belongs link from top frame clicked, it display the contents , in this scenario, should i use tiles ?

thank you !
 
I agree. Here's the link: http://aspose.com/file-tools
 
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