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Dave Brown
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Joined: Mar 08, 2005
Posts: 301

Ive always held a lot of respect for this website and its leading men/women. It certainly was a great resource to me when I was going for my SCJP and way before that to be honest.

I've created some tutorials aimed specifically at grails developers, in the Groovy forum a few threads from the top is a thread asking where the OP can find grails tutorials. So I created a post letting people know what my tutorials contain and where they can find them. They happen to be on a new forum that I setup, but that is beside the point. I just wanted to contribute and let folks who read the groovy section know there are a set of grails tutorials which I'm working on and where they can be found.

That was not intended to be blatant advertising.

I actually did the right thing last week and actually PM'd David, the mod of the Groovy section and asked if I could specifically create a thread letting people know purely of this grails forum. I never had a reply so I figured it was probably frowned upon and left it at that, I also did say I understand if he would rather I didn't.

I don't personally gain from people reading what I've wrote, except for the reward factor that I'm giving something back to the community.

Regards, Dave Brown
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paul wheaton

Joined: Dec 14, 1998
Posts: 20896


Your request to David found its way to my desk and I gave the green light.

Keep in mind, you are effectively asking if it is okay to advertise for a java forum inside of our java forums. It's like advertising for target inside of a walmart.

I like to think that JavaRanch/CodeRanch is more about knowledge, programming and community than about building an empire/website whatever. So if there is a better resource out there, then I definitely want folks to know about it.

However ... keep in mind that we get big gobs of spam every day. And there are a lot of folks that are up to no good and we are very vigilant about that.

I think that most forums/websites would delete that sort of thing. So I can understand Gregg's position on this. While I am inclined to move the thread back, the part about you feeling cheesed off, cheeses me off. Which makes me dis-inclined to move it back. And, while I don't agree with Gregg's choice on this one occasion, I think Gregg makes lots and lots of good choices, so my inclination is to blindly support him.

So now I'm leaning against moving it back.

I'll make a deal with you. If you edit your post to mellow it out .... downgrade from cheesed off, to ... say ... confused, I'll move the thread.

I feel it is important to say that I checked around and the primary thing in your favor with this is that you have lots of posts and some folks on the staff have reported that they think you're a generally decent guy. I say this because I don't want somebody spamming my forums later with their stuff and pointing to this post saying "you said it was okay for Dave, so therefore ...." --- so I want to continue to give myself license to delete similar stuff in the future willy nilly. For whatever reason I make up, or for no reason at all!

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David Newton

Joined: Sep 29, 2008
Posts: 12617

I didn't reply for two reasons; one I was extremely busy with some family medical issues, and two, I was unable to resolve my ambivalence.

Ultimately, I don't understand why you'd want to start your own forum and advertise it here rather than create the community you desire here: we're already a destination for a lot of things. Why not just add to the list of things we're known to be good at? I don't feel that making Grails an "official" part of the Groovy forum is impossible, nor do I feel the traffic would be overwhelming (I think it'll always be less than, say, the Struts traffic).
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