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Henry Pinkerton wrote:During the hiring process, when I am hiring, I don't consider "claimed" participation in some open-source project as relevant experience.
When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.
Henry Pinkerton wrote:I can find entry-level programmers that are more open to being molded and will accept a lower salary than someone with 6+ years non development work experience. In software development, with experience comes an "opinion." It is enough trouble dealing with the "opinions" of senior staff, let alone someone still wet behind the ears.
In regards to considering open-source experience, if a project is large and has 10+ participants for example, there is no way to easily determine what an actual participant actually did, and what the others members did. Sticking "I worked on Apache Tomcat project" does not tell me much about what "you" actually did. To determine if the individual is "piggy-backing" on other people's work takes time and effort, I'm not interested in being a detective. Other opinions may vary.
In my opinion, he/she has better chances with hardcore database technology. And a great Database Architect is a valuable team member in an enterprise setting, and typically brings in a pretty impressive salary as well. Just me two cents
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Tim Holloway wrote:One of the biggest complaints about the use of Asian programmers is that they don't offer opinions. They do exactly what they're told. Even if it's wrong. That they are in fact, displaying the one behavior that frustrates people most in computers - that they do what you tell them to do and not what you want them to do. Meaning that the Everyday Low Prices that offshore/H1-B labor are supposed to provide are diluted by the need to "program the programmers".
The secret of how to be miserable is to constantly expect things are going to happen the way that they are "supposed" to happen.
You can have faith, which carries the understanding that you may be disappointed. Then there's being a willfully-blind idiot, which virtually guarantees it.
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The secret of how to be miserable is to constantly expect things are going to happen the way that they are "supposed" to happen.
You can have faith, which carries the understanding that you may be disappointed. Then there's being a willfully-blind idiot, which virtually guarantees it.
Spot false dilemmas now, ask me how!
(If you're not on the edge, you're taking up too much room.)
Henry Pinkerton wrote:
In regards to considering open-source experience, if a project is large and has 10+ participants for example, there is no way to easily determine what an actual participant actually did, and what the others members did. Sticking "I worked on Apache Tomcat project" does not tell me much about what "you" actually did. To determine if the individual is "piggy-backing" on other people's work takes time and effort, I'm not interested in being a detective. Other opinions may vary.
When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.
Janeice DelVecchio wrote:
I'd actually like a job where I could do both DB activities and Java programming. I suppose I'm screwed.
The secret of how to be miserable is to constantly expect things are going to happen the way that they are "supposed" to happen.
You can have faith, which carries the understanding that you may be disappointed. Then there's being a willfully-blind idiot, which virtually guarantees it.
Henry Pinkerton wrote:As mentioned, strong relational table theory knowledge combined with keen database programming skills will enable someone already working in the database area (for 3+ years) to develop a good career.
Doing something that you do not like doing in no way constitutes a "good career" in my book.
Janeice DelVecchio wrote:I'd actually like a job where I could do both DB activities and Java programming. I suppose I'm screwed.
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The secret of how to be miserable is to constantly expect things are going to happen the way that they are "supposed" to happen.
You can have faith, which carries the understanding that you may be disappointed. Then there's being a willfully-blind idiot, which virtually guarantees it.
Tim Holloway wrote:Don't forget that there is a free version of Oracle as well that you should be able to use for desktop programming.
As a bonus, if you install that, you'll end up picking up some skills that would help you if if ever wanted to fall back to being a DBA. Not to mention that it will give you a better appreciation of what DBAs have to do.
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Spot false dilemmas now, ask me how!
(If you're not on the edge, you're taking up too much room.)
Henry Pinkerton wrote:There is another aspect to this thread to be considered. It is the OP's previous work experience, i.e. number of years working, and it's relationship to finding another position while increasing his salary. He has six years work experience after finishing undergraduate studies. For the past three years, he has been working in some "IT" field and now "would like a programming job where I get paid more."
If his current salary is still comparable to what a new graduate would get coming straight from college, he might be able to get a Java programming position which increases his salary.
However, he has been promoted and most likely is making more than a recent college graduate. It is highly unlikely that he can shift to a Java programming position AND increase his salary. How can he best leverage his previous experience then and INCREASE the salary?
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As I've said earlier, beware those who think they know what's best for you. Only you know that.James Hambrick wrote:You see to feel that I should continue a job I don't want to do for the rest of my life and just do programming as a hobbie.
Henry Pinkerton wrote:James, take heed to Bear's caution. My comments are only suggestions for your consideration and pondering. There are a ton of other factors that I do not know about your situation or psychology.
Learn to program with PL-SQL or Transact-SQL and see how you like it. I enjoy it whenever I get the opportunity.
I would not settle for any salary reduction bigger than 10K.
Your current job only is a small part of the database world. My suggestion was to explore the other 85% that you currently do not know, not to stay in your current position for the rest of your life. Read my earlier posts a little more carefully.
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