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Fidel Edwards
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Hi Friends,

I am planning to learn new foreign language. I am from India, want to know which foreign language should I learn at first preference?

I am totally confused among Spanish, French and German. For this I also found a very interesting and lengthy conversation here. Which makes me more baffled

I wanted to go for Spanish but not sure whether I am right or not...!


Any Suggestion will be appreciated !

Thanks in advance !
 
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I would say it depends on why you want to learn. To speak it with other people? Then where you live, or will live in the future, obviously matters a lot. To read great literature in the original? Then it depends on your taste in literature, because although all three of these languages have a vast corpus, they're all very different. Or maybe you want to learn for the challenge? For fun? To impress girls? Let us know.
 
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Ernest Friedman-Hill wrote:I would say it depends on why you want to learn. To speak it with other people?

I want to learn it for my bright future. I just want to know which language is in more demand?

Ernest Friedman-Hill wrote: For fun? To impress girls? Let us know.


It's true I want to learn it for fun. I'm big fan of Enrique Iglesias and you know he is getting older. So there should be someone who can sing in Spanish like him. What do you think about me?
 
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For some fun that's sure to present an additional perspective on this, take this quiz: http://www.sporcle.com/games/mostspokenlanguages.php (I love Sporcle :-)
 
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I only got twelve in four minutes. Of the remainder, three I've never even heard of, and the remaining five didn't come to mind as widely spoken. And certainly the positions of the three being discussed here are relevant and a little surprising!
 
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Ulf Dittmer wrote:For some fun that's sure to present an additional perspective on this, take this quiz: http://www.sporcle.com/games/mostspokenlanguages.php (I love Sporcle :-)


I guess the results are based on the population that speak those respective languages. Anyways Spanish was the third widely spoken language. So this should be a good reason to learn Spanish.
 
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1) No. of people speaking X language (China and India have most population and that is why Chinese and Hindi). Does not mean famous or widely used.
2) No. of countries used X language (English language) means famous and widely used.

The survey is I guess based on # 1. but OP is trying for # 2, IMO.

One advice, whatever language you learn make sure you speak like native speaker then only you would enjoy talking with natives. Good Luck.
 
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I doubt the survey result. How come Punjabi is famous than French? No way.
 
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Vikas Kapoor wrote:I doubt the survey result. How come Punjabi is famous than French? No way.


Anyways Punjabi speaking people are spread all over the North America, Europe and Australia region.
 
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Hi,

If you plan to live or already be in the US I think the best for you is Spanish based on the immigration.

 
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Vikas Kapoor wrote:I doubt the survey result. How come Punjabi is famous than French? No way.

It's not about being "famous" - it's about how many people speak that language as their first language. Lots of people speak French as a second language (or nth language; whatever) but those people don't count as French speakers for purposes of this question.
 
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Just ran into this interesting info. about french!
I tried learning Spanish-I. It was interesting, but I am not good in grammar, as higher level courses taught the practical grammar (Spanish II, III , etc). I didn't wanna spend any more money...

Take all the levels if you wanna be a fluent speaker, and speak it as often as possible
 
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German is like English but with a much more complicated grammar.
French is like Spanish but with a more complicated grammar and mad numerals.

German and English are germanic languages.
French and Spanish are romanic languages.

English and Spanish are most spoken worldwide
You already speak a germanic language.

Learn Spanish
 
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Ulf is our Sporcle fan and he might answer our questions.
 
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Go for a real challenge and learn a non-spoken language.
 
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Bear Bibeault wrote:Go for a real challenge and learn a non-spoken language.


I took a class on ASL in college and loved it. I wish I could take more...
 
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I had a non-hearing friend in the late 80's and learned ASL to talk with him. Sadly, as with most languages, lack of daily use since then means that I've lost most of it. I can still finger-spell with the best of them though.
 
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Yeah, I still get bits and pieces conversations if I see people signing, same with Spanish which I took in high school. But since I don't use either regularly, I'm quite rusty. I can still count in ASL up to 1000, and could probably piece together enough to introduce myself and ask a couple questions but that's about it.
 
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Ashish: I think there are a number of other important considerations for your decision, and they all depend on you:

How often do you currently meet speakers of these languages? How easily could you find speakers of these languages to practice on, if you seek them out? Online written forums could be useful here, but don't underestimate the importance of speaking with native speakers.

How likely are you to move to a country where these languages are spoken heavily? How likely are you to go to one of these countries on a vacation? How likely is it that you'll work with clients (or employers) who speak these languages?

Which countries have movies, television, music, or literature that you enjoy, or that you'd like to learn more about?

Learning another language well (especially as an adult) takes a lot of time and effort. It helps a lot if you can enjoy it as you're learning.
 
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Mike Simmons wrote:
Learning another language well (especially as an adult) takes a lot of time and effort. It helps a lot if you can enjoy it as you're learning.


Thanks Mike!

After this long discussion I prepared my mind to learn Spanish from Institute and German from Internet (as it is mentioned that German is somewhat like English). Am I thinking right?

 
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In "Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman", Dr. Feynman relates an anecdote where he is working as a professor and decides to learn Spanish. Walking towards the classroom on the first day, he sees a very attractive young woman walking into the Portuguese class across the hall. For a moment he's about to switch classes, but finally he decides that's a stupid reason to learn a language. Later in his career, he got a professorship in Brazil and so had to learn ... Portuguese. From that day, he vowed never to doubt his instincts again.

The moral: choose a language based on the best looking classmates.
 
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Ashish Tiwari wrote:
After this long discussion I prepared my mind to learn Spanish from Institute and German from Internet (as it is mentioned that German is somewhat like English). Am I thinking right?


Hi Ashish,

It's true that English and German are both Germanic languages, but don't be fooled into thinking German is easy for English speakers. English is significantly different from most of the other Germanic languages, because of strong historical influences from other languages, especially French. A lot of common English vocabulary is from French/Latin, and English grammar is simpler in many ways than German grammar. I don't want to discourage you from learning German as it's a great language with a wonderful literature (my first degree was in German). But if you're just learning a language for fun and perhaps to use on your travels, then Spanish will almost certainly be much easier to get started with. But if you can try both, then do so and see which one you feel more comfortable with.

Good luck!

Chris
 
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Greg Charles wrote:The moral: choose a language based on the best looking classmates.


My undergraduate German classes: 90% female.
My undergraduate Computer Science classes: 90% male.

"Do the math"
 
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Greg Charles wrote:The moral: choose a language based on the best looking classmates.


+1.
 
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Why don't you learn Portuguese?
 
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Spanish is spoken in a lot of developing countries. Pretty much all of South America (except Brazil) and of course half of North America speaks Spanish.

I found Spanish to be quite easy to learn. Specially for Indian folks, the pronunciation comes out perfect because it is pronounced exactly like Hindi. If you can read it, you can say it. It is fun to learn and, if you are in US, easy to practice.

Careerwise, learning Chinese would also be a good idea because that is where the growth is. Though I found it to be a LOT harder to learn than Spanish because the script is so different. So it is very difficult to practice and learn by reading as compared to Spanish. If you know Hindi and English, you already know how to read Spanish. It is that easy. All you need to do is build some vocabulary.

Also, if one is learning a new language at this stage in life, imho, the focus should be on spoken communication with other people instead of trying to enjoy literature (or movies) because it is very very difficult (i.e. years and years) to acquire the command that is required to enjoy literature. And if the literature is really good i.e. if it is worth spending years to learn the language, it is probably already translated to languages that you already know.

So, imho, Spanish will give you the best ROI.
 
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Don"t be fooled by the fact that German is easy to learn. The German grammer is one of the most difficult thing to master. Last year I completed my ZAD (Zertifikat Deutsche) examination. Though I passed it with a good score, I feel often times myself embarassed when speaking in German sometimes with the wrong grammer.

I"m now thinking to learn Spanish. Learning Chineese is also a good idea but should be more difficult as the dialect is totally new.
 
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Rogerio Kioshi wrote:Why don't you learn Portuguese?


Thanks Rogerio,

I can't because I see German, Spanish and French seem more useful (in terms of business) and widely spoken.
 
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I see German, Spanish and French seem more useful (in terms of business)

You're indian ? Don't you consider learning Japanese instead ?
 
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Christophe Verré wrote:
I see German, Spanish and French seem more useful (in terms of business)

You're indian ? Don't you consider learning Japanese instead ?


I thought about it but there is very few Japanese learning center and also it has long learning curve.
 
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