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Karthik Guru
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I understand that Spring consfirms to aop alliance standards. How significant is aopalliance? I guess AspectJ's way of writing aspects is very different from the interface driven AopAlliance apis. Is aopalliance considered a standard / something or it is just one of those attempts at standardizing AOP?. Is JBossAOP also compliant with this standard?
Pradeep bhatt
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What is AOP alliance?


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Alexandru Popescu
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afaik aop alliance is another project.

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Pradeep bhatt
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http://aopalliance.sourceforge.net/
Alexandru Popescu
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The guys there are quite impressive as names, but I don't know what is the real contribution of aopalliance.

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Pradeep bhatt
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I feel that they are developing an alternative to EJB's. They have mentioned -

AOP ALLIANCE
Java/J2EE AOP standards

So AOP ALLIANCE is only applicable to Java/J2EE containers I guess.


So is Spring following AOP ALLIANCE standards?
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Lasse Koskela
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Originally posted by Pradeep Bhat:
So AOP ALLIANCE is only applicable to Java/J2EE containers I guess.
AOP is not for just J2EE application server vendors and thus AOP Alliance is not just for J2EE application server vendors.


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Emman lopez
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Hi everyone,
for what I understand , Core Spring AOP interfaces are built on AOP Alliance AOP interoperability interfaces. AOP Alliance is a standard created by the community, and not by Sun or others companies. for what I read in the article
"AOP Alliance: Bring together different AOP frameworks" in theServerSide.com
Most of the AOP frameworks available today are taking the AOP Alliance standard. You can read at http://www.theserverside.com/news/thread.tss?thread_id=20100


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Alexandru Popescu
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You're right Emman. There were some interesting entries on the mailing list .

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Matt Raible
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Originally posted by karthik Guru:
Is aopalliance considered a standard / something or it is just one of those attempts at standardizing AOP?. Is JBossAOP also compliant with this standard?


It's an attempt at standardizing. Its member list has most of the major players that are producing AOP frameworks.


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Karthik Guru
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Oh yeah Emman the javadoc for the following actually led me into AOP Alliance.

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Alexandru Popescu
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Originally posted by Matt Raible:

Its member list has most of the major players that are producing AOP frameworks.


I can enumerate a few names whose contribution to AOP is remarkable that are missing:
  • Gregor Kiczales
  • Adrian Colyer
  • Jim Hugunin


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    Karthik Guru
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    Does'nt feature JBossAOP either (not sure how significant that is anyway)
    Karthik Guru
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    Does'nt feature JBossAOP either (not sure how significant that is anyway)
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    Originally posted by karthik Guru:
    Does'nt feature JBossAOP either (not sure how significant that is anyway)

    JBossAOP is hardly AOP according to the rumours I've heard. The rumours say it's basically just an interceptor framework. The rumours could be blatantly wrong, of course.
     
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