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Disappointed about scores (Enthuware)

Ulrich Vormbrock
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Joined: Apr 15, 2010
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Hi,

perhaps you can share my experiences concerning mock exams with Enthuware.

I'm a bit disappointed because I see that

  • the level of difficulty increases with each test unit,
  • some questions are not even covered by the K&B book,
  • some explanations are misleading,
  • correct responses (for example when text has to be typed in) are not counted if there is only one fault (e.g. 3 of 4 correct).


  • Although I deeply revise all questions (after having finished a test unit), studying (and sometimes writing down) the explanations given by Enthuware, I can't see a progress at all.
    Just the contrary seems to be the case: after four test units, my score has even fallen (instead of increased) about 8% - it's really demoralizing and not very motivating, getting the impression that obviously I've struggled in vain.
    What I'm doing wrong?

    (Note: during the first five units, my scores increased about 10%, but after the 5th unit, they decreased constantly, as mentioned above - fortunately, I've passed all these exams, so I try not to be too worried...)

    In any case, I'm glad that I didn't start with Examlab immediately, otherwise I would be much more frustrated.


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    Deepak Bala
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    Hi there Ulrich.

    Mock exams are supposed to be harder in comparison to real exams. So low scores are expected. When I prepared for the exam, I would sometimes fail mock exams myself. So dont worry. What is the % that you got on these exams ? It is important to instead compare the % you got with others instead of evaluating it against 100%. This way if 3 people say they got 30% and you got 40%, it *might* indicate that you are doing better than the rest.

    I can understand your frustration. This is a hard exam to crack. Keep trying and you will eventually reach there with patience. Good luck


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    Ulrich Vormbrock
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    Joined: Apr 15, 2010
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    Today, I've done "Test 9" (Enthuware) and I'm still more than disappointed about my score, which has fallen from 73% (Test 5) to 63% (Test 9), although I'm working hard for it, revising all exercises intensively.

    I'm angry because these kind of tests always try to cheat and trick you - besides, this test is not very lenient.
    Today, I'd a drag&drop question concerning DateFormat, which I've resolved like this:



    The test requires that the argument from getInstance() is also filled with "Locale.FRANCE", although it's already done by instantiating DateFormat (line 2).
    So I got no points for this question - in my opinion, it's rather unfair (also because they didn't write explicitly that all gaps should be filled).

    Besides, there are so many awkward questions about the finalize() method, although not covered in the K&B book, for example s.th. like this:
    Is it true? "If an exception is thrown during execution of the finalize method of an object, then the exception is ignored and the object is destroyed."

    I see no progress because in spite of revising, new tricky problems arise - it's like fighting against windmills!

    Or another question from the today's test:
    Object obj = String.class;
    Is this valid?

    Answer: yes, because String.class is a class literal.

    Ok, fine - but as far as I remember, it's not covered in the K&B book neither!

    In any case, I'm very upset about these mock exams, I get even the impression that a mean trick is played on a test-taker, instead of being helped to become more secure with all kinds of Java issues. It's frustrating and contraproductive, as well.

    For me, it's ok resolving even the most sophisticated thread questions, provided that it's covered within the K&B book.
    But things mentioned above go too far - at least, it's my opinion!
    I don't want to waist my time resolving mock exams during months and months (hardly progressing with my scores), I want to get ready and well-prepared for the REAL exam.

    What do you think about it?
    Rajeev Rnair
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    Joined: Mar 22, 2010
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    The Object class API says
    If an uncaught exception is thrown by the finalize method, the exception is ignored and finalization of that object terminates.
    .
    The signature of finalize () is protected void finalize() throws Throwable

    So you could write as follows in your code
    without compile error or Runtime Exception!

    You are doing great, the last 3-4 Enthuware exams are very tough. My scores too fell at least by 10% in the last few exams.
    Have you tried exam lab? Please try that also if you haven't tried that. This is to update your knowledge.

    all the best in advance


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    Ulrich Vormbrock
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    Hi Rajeev,

    thanks a lot for your motivation - it's fine to see that I'm not alone!

    Examlab? Not yet, but I'll try it out during the next days, after I've finished Enthuware.

    I'm aware that Examlab is even much tougher than Enthuware, but I'm mentally prepared that (at least) at the beginning, the scores can be even less than 30% (as far as I've read in this discussion group).

    My deception is based on the fact that Enthuware is known not to be too hard ... so I thought it should be possible to push the score from 60 to even above 80% ...

    Besides, I've also tried out Inquisition - which is a bit tougher than Enthuware, too.
    Vinay Singh
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    Joined: Dec 15, 2004
    Posts: 174
    Ulrich
    There are couple of tests at Skill-Guru to help you practice for SCJP

    Free SCJP 5 Mock test

    SCJP 6 Mock test

    Good luck with your preparations.


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    Akil Kumar
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    Ulrich Vormbrock wrote:Hi,

    perhaps you can share my experiences concerning mock exams with Enthuware.

    I'm a bit disappointed because I see that

  • the level of difficulty increases with each test unit,
  • some questions are not even covered by the K&B book,
  • some explanations are misleading,
  • correct responses (for example when text has to be typed in) are not counted if there is only one fault (e.g. 3 of 4 correct).


  • Although I deeply revise all questions (after having finished a test unit), studying (and sometimes writing down) the explanations given by Enthuware, I can't see a progress at all.
    Just the contrary seems to be the case: after four test units, my score has even fallen (instead of increased) about 8% - it's really demoralizing and not very motivating, getting the impression that obviously I've struggled in vain.
    What I'm doing wrong?

    (Note: during the first five units, my scores increased about 10%, but after the 5th unit, they decreased constantly, as mentioned above - fortunately, I've passed all these exams, so I try not to be too worried...)

    In any case, I'm glad that I didn't start with Examlab immediately, otherwise I would be much more frustrated.



    Hi,

    I am not seeing any progress at all in the Enthuware mock exams . I took all the 12 standard tests. My score is always between 40% to 60%. I took the exam lab diagnostic exam alone and got only 34%. I don't know where I am lagging. I am having my exam by end of this week. Can anyone please suggest? I am totally confused. Should I reattempt the enthuware mock exams?

    When I read the concepts from K & B book everything looks familiar to me but I am not able to do well in mock exams. Please help.

    Thanks



    Paul Anilprem
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    There are multiple issues at here:
    1. The format of Drag and Drop: It works pretty much the same as in the real exam. If some blanks may be left unfilled, the question would say so. Otherwise, all blanks need to be filled.
    2. There is no partial credit for a question in the real exam either.
    3. Topics not covered in K&B: While K&B is a great book, it does not provide 100% coverage. I have seen several posts here on these forums stating that some topics were not covered well in KB book and they were glad they did all Enthuware exams.
    4. If you find any explanation misleading, please let us know. It is possible to interpret a statement in a way that was not imagined at all by the author and we will be happy to provide further explanation.
    5. The real exam is hard. Many people fail in the first attempt. Believe me, you will be glad that you went through all the Enthuware tests before attempting the real exam. We could have made them easier but then we would not be serving the purpose, and I am sure you would be looking for refund after taking the real exam


    Now coming to your problem about not improving scores:
    1. There is a "Average Scores" node in the "Test View" tree. You might want to check that to see how other people have scored on these individual tests. It is ok to score less on these tests.

    2 After completing one test, are you going back to the books and reading the topics on which scored less before taking the next test? This is very important. If you are doing it, are you scoring low on the same topics?
    IOW, are you making the same mistakes again and again. If not, there is nothing to worry about.


    HTH,
    Paul.




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    Akil Kumar
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    Paul Anil wrote:There are multiple issues at here:
    1. The format of Drag and Drop: It works pretty much the same as in the real exam. If some blanks may be left unfilled, the question would say so. Otherwise, all blanks need to be filled.
    2. There is no partial credit for a question in the real exam either.
    3. Topics not covered in K&B: While K&B is a great book, it does not provide 100% coverage. I have seen several posts here on these forums stating that some topics were not covered well in KB book and they were glad they did all Enthuware exams.
    4. If you find any explanation misleading, please let us know. It is possible to interpret a statement in a way that was not imagined at all by the author and we will be happy to provide further explanation.
    5. The real exam is hard. Many people fail in the first attempt. Believe me, you will be glad that you went through all the Enthuware tests before attempting the real exam. We could have made them easier but then we would not be serving the purpose, and I am sure you would be looking for refund after taking the real exam


    Now coming to your problem about not improving scores:
    1. There is a "Average Scores" node in the "Test View" tree. You might want to check that to see how other people have scored on these individual tests. It is ok to score less on these tests.

    2 After completing one test, are you going back to the books and reading the topics on which scored less before taking the next test? This is very important. If you are doing it, are you scoring low on the same topics?
    IOW, are you making the same mistakes again and again. If not, there is nothing to worry about.


    HTH,
    Paul.





    Paul,

    Thank you for the response. I am not complaining about Enthuware software at all. It is very good infact I learnt many tricks through each test. The area of mistakes which I make keeps changing for each test. For instance if I score well in oo concepts in one test, in the next test my score will drop in that objective. All my worry is about, I have to be more consistent.

    Thanks
    A Phatak
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    Joined: Sep 22, 2011
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    I know this question may go unanswered as I'm posting a question late (2009? to 2011). But I am the same boat as you. I have solved my trial test, and results were dissapointing at best.

    I'm still going to purchase Enthuware, but in the end, did it help you to solve the exam? How much of your success in the exam will you attribute to Enthuware. I have studied the K&B book, and feel pretty confident that if they test me on the concepts explained in this book, I will do well. But Exam Lab was throughly dissapointing, and so was the 2nd assessment from K&B exam book.

    THanks,
    A


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