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Why no book, answer

Joe Charles
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So Ive been doing some reading in this area and I know why there is no published book for this cert.... because most of the cert content is DEAD.. SOAP, WSDL, WS-*.. DEAD.. REST rules the day... thoughts?
Joe Charles
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Joined: May 24, 2010
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hmm... looks like they are working on one anyway...
http://www.amazon.com/Certified-Developer-Services-310-220-Certification/dp/0072259523/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1277729223&sr=1-16
Christian Nicoll
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Joe Charles wrote:So Ive been doing some reading in this area and I know why there is no published book for this cert.... because most of the cert content is DEAD.. SOAP, WSDL, WS-*.. DEAD.. REST rules the day... thoughts?


Hi Joe,
i don't share this opinion. I think that SOAP, WSDL, WS-* is far away from being DEAD. If you compare SOAP with REST then you will find that both ways 've their pro's and contras.

I think the problem with an "All-In-One-Happy-Book" is that this would be to heavy because I would assume if it covers nearly 100% of the exam stuff then it would 've about 1000 pages.

Perhaps you take a look a Ivan's notes, which are more than 400 pages strong and summarize the exam content and link also to other stuff/links.

Greetings,
Christian


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Ivan Krizsan
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Joe Charles wrote:So Ive been doing some reading in this area and I know why there is no published book for this cert.... because most of the cert content is DEAD.. SOAP, WSDL, WS-*.. DEAD.. REST rules the day... thoughts?

If you feel that this is the case, then you can save yourself a lot of trouble studying for the certification and concentrate on REST, which in itself is quit a subject!
It is up to each and every one to decide for themselves whether the SCDJWS (or any other certification) is appropriate for them, considering personal interest, professional interests, work duties etc.
Best wishes!


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krishna bulusu
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Joined: Aug 28, 2006
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@Joe,

Do you have any idea when would it be released, the book you have mentioned?
I am preparing for this exam may be I can post pone if this book will be released in next 1-2 months.


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Kirstin Schapitz
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Joined: Aug 31, 2008
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I'm waiting for the book as well. It was supposed to be published in spring this year but has been postponed again for August 2011 (!) according to the German Amazon page... that's more than another year... crazy, isn't it?
Ulf Dittmer
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I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a book for this particular exam. The exam is behind the times of WS trends, and IMO the lack of a book reflects that. For example, JAXR/UDDI never caught on (except behind closed doors in a few large companies), but it's still part of the exam. And there's very little about REST (and nothing about JAX-RS, I believe), which is the preferred choice for new WS projects these days. Also, the SOA hype has subsided, and WS are no longer seen as the panacea they once were, so the general level of interest in the exam (and its value) is probably less than it once was.


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Kram Nart
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Ulf Dittmer wrote:I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a book for this particular exam. The exam is behind the times of WS trends, and IMO the lack of a book reflects that. For example, JAXR/UDDI never caught on (except behind closed doors in a few large companies), but it's still part of the exam. And there's very little about REST (and nothing about JAX-RS, I believe), which is the preferred choice for new WS projects these days. Also, the SOA hype has subsided, and WS are no longer seen as the panacea they once were, so the general level of interest in the exam (and its value) is probably less than it once was.


Interesting take. I had plans to take the SCDJWS but now I'm not so enthuse about it anymore. Can you recommend an alternate certification relating to WS that is in good demand and is future-proof to some degree?


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