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well JAVA may also used? together(with Obj-C) or Java alone

 
Leonidas Savvides
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I heared that Obj-C used for development of iPhone and iPad Apps, well JAVA may also used? together(with Obj-C) or Java alone?
 
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As far as I know only C/C++/Obj-C are allowed.
 
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Java is not available on iOS, and that won't change any time soon.
 
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I agree. Even Google is currently in trouble for modifying Java for Android.
 
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Well, there's nothing that would stop Apple from licensing Java if they wanted to (they already do so for OS X, after all). It's also not like developers aren't asking for it. But Steve Jobs is on record as having declared client-side Java dead, which is probably the final word on the matter.
 
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Paul Michael wrote:I agree. Even Google is currently in trouble for modifying Java for Android.

That has nothing to do with no Java on iOS, though.
 
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Sorry if my earlier post seem offensive or nonsensical. The only point I'd like to drive is that at the moment, the only legal use of Java in the mobile space is through JME.
 
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Hi,

You can use C/C++ and Objective C for iPhone development. JAVA can't be integrated to iPhone/iPad applications this time.

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Pratik Goswami
 
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Paul Michael wrote:The only point I'd like to drive is that at the moment, the only legal use of Java in the mobile space is through JME.

Well, that's not true either. Oracle is not suing Google because they are using the Java programming language. It's because Google's Dalvik VM is implemented with ideas that are patented by Oracle. It doesn't really have anything to do with Java itself. But this is going off-topic...

The reason that Apple doesn't allow Java on the iPhone is because Apple wants to retain full control of the iPhone, and they fear that if they allow Java or any other virtual machine platform on it (such as Flash), they'll loose some control over the user experience on the iPhone.
 
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It's even beyond that, though, as translators are also not allowed (at least last time I checked). Nor a layer of abstraction on the Apple libraries. This is so they can control what's available to the programmer, and control the user experience--but that's a canard, since iApps works so radically differently anyway.
 
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Jesper Young wrote:
The reason that Apple doesn't allow Java on the iPhone is because Apple wants to retain full control of the iPhone, and they fear that if they allow Java or any other virtual machine platform on it (such as Flash), they'll loose some control over the user experience on the iPhone.


This is well said and summarizes everything. Thanks.
 
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