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Reverse brain drain ?

Deepak Bala
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I came across this article today -> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-10614936

Perusing through it, I can see patterns that match the story detailed there. The gist of the article is that programmers of Indian origin are moving back to India from the USA.

Whether it is a movement is difficult to ascertain, which is why I came here to ask. Do you see something similar ? Are you a programmer that is moving back to India ? If yes why and if no what made you stay. I'd like to hear your thoughts. Even if you have co-workers from India feel free to holler yer opinions here.


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Campbell Ritchie
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This sort of thing happens all the time. 5-6 years ago lots of people came from Poland to Britain to work, when Poland joined the European Community and Britain was the only country to fulfil its obligation to admit people from any EC country. Then when the British economy went into recession nearly three years ago, they went home to Poland.
Tim Holloway
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Actually, this was first noted months ago. Primary causes listed included:

1. Fewer US opportunities
2. Less of an income premium on US salaries over Indian ones as Indian salaries rose and US salaries fell
3. Wanting to return to home and family

I can't remember for sure, but I think it may have also included the recent rise in hostility towards non-European foreigners.


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Deepak Bala
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1. Fewer US opportunities
2. Less of an income premium on US salaries over Indian ones as Indian salaries rose and US salaries fell
3. Wanting to return to home and family


Yep these are along the line of what I was thinking about.

I can't remember for sure, but I think it may have also included the recent rise in hostility towards non-European foreigners.


Really ? Is there an article / source that mentions this ? I'd like to do some more reading if you have a link.

This sort of thing happens all the time


I was not aware of the Britain - Poland thing.
Avishkar Nikale
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With globalization developing nations have now a chance to consume services which were once considered elite.

Consider the fact the number mobile phone users in India & China alone are over a billion which makes their telecom
industries one of the more lucrative ones.

They are also moving away from savings based lifestyle to a credit based (which I am not sure is a good idea or a bad idea).

With influx of most technologies & services one can (to cite a example) eat at a Wolfgang Puck restaurant & then have a ice-cream @ Häagen-Dazs & move to play some
slots at The Venetian ( No, not Las Vegas but Macau, China SAR).

If the infrastructure is able to cope with the growth it would lead to a better lifestyle & maybe a equivalent alternative for people
to flourish.

P.S. The CIA fact-book is a good website for statistics.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/index.html




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Avishkar Nikale
Deepak Bala
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They are also moving away from savings based lifestyle to a credit based (which I am not sure is a good idea or a bad idea).


This is debatable. I would say this is a subjective view right now

With influx of most technologies & services one can (to cite a example) eat at a Wolfgang Puck restaurant & then have a ice-cream @ Häagen-Dazs & move to play some
slots at The Venetian ( No, not Las Vegas but Macau, China SAR).


What does eating have to do with technology

With globalization developing nations have now a chance to consume services which were once considered elite.


Globalization existed a while back. Even before folks started moving back to where they came from.
Avishkar Nikale
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1) Though getting a credit card is not as easy as developed nation, still the level has increased. (Most people from developing nation would prefer a debit card)
http://uk.creditcards.com/credit-card-news/uk-britain-credit-debit-card-statistics-international.php#india


Home Loans, Personal Loans, Vehicle Loans are much easier to get & processing time is also reduced
& criteria less stringent than the norms years ago.

For. e.g. There are pre-approved credit cards, sales people loitering right outside a ATM to offer you one...

Getting credit has become easier

2) I am saying global players are now present in these developing nations, tapping the market & improving the lifestyle.
These companies are offering services/products which were not as prevalent when brain drain started.

3) Yes, globalization existed but not at the level you can see right now.

Fundamental rules of migration ( I will refrain from using the word immigration) are same for birds,
animals , humans.

The search for a better pasture, a place where your needs can be sufficiently fulfilled , lesser threats to your existence.
(Ducks, Aryans, Mughals, Pilgrims, Traders )

So rightly pointed out by Tim in his quote above, all these factors have started some form of reverse brain drain
& some would argue it started in trickles even before the meltdown.

The meltdown acted as a catalyst to expedite the phenomenon.



 
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