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Hello fellow website owners,

I didn't renew those 13 additional domains(mydomain.com , bestdomain.com , domainnow.com , domain.us , domain.org , etc). Now the hosting provider is asking more money, saying "Renewing a domain during grace period is subject to applicable renewal and redemption fees."

All comes to excess of $1200.

Now I am confused. Right now, am doing "nothing" with those 13 domains.

For now, all I am doing is blogging (on the 2 domains I renewed). In future I might create a product and incorporate my business (which is very vague, I might never do that).

When I spoke to the customer service, they said, the ".com" domains are always valuable, even them all together coming to 8 domains. excess of $800 ...,

Any body give me some advice, Thanks in advance.
Deepak Bala
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err.... domain renewal fees is usually 10$ a year. Comes down to ~5-7$ on discounts. How many years are you trying to renew them for ?


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Vikas Kapoor
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Deepak Bala wrote:err.... domain renewal fees is usually 10$ a year.


It depends on domain name and extension.
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If you failed to renew the domains and they no longer belong to you, then you need to buy them from whoever does and they can set whatever price they want for them.


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Correction: you need to buy them if you feel you really need them. I don't know that there are very many domain-name holders who own all those variations on their name (if that's what you're trying to say). "myamazon.com" goes to Wikipedia for me, while "amazonnow.com" goes to a domain squatter. Personally I don't see why you'd want to even spend $10 each on these.


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I am trying to renew them just for one year. Redemption fees is $80.00 per domain, and renewal fees is like around $9.00 , and some other services like "certified domain", etc.

There is always a chance for others to buy say "bestdomain.com" and abuse my "domain.com" website?
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You could spend millions buying every permutation of a base domain. Will you buy domain-sucks.com? i-hate-domain.com?
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Bear Bibeault wrote:You could spend millions buying every permutation of a base domain. Will you buy domain-sucks.com? i-hate-domain.com?

You mean to say I can buy "google-sucks.com" and do whatever I want? Is that even legal?

I think thats where "Trade Mark"/Registered symbol comes into play? Can anybody who has experience with Trade Mark/Registration , know what it costs/takes to protect my domain?

So it is just a sales/marketing tactic, that suggests buying all those 13 other combinations?

Does anybody on java ranch own such combinations? And how would you support your decision in owning them?
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srinivas chary wrote:
Bear Bibeault wrote:You could spend millions buying every permutation of a base domain. Will you buy domain-sucks.com? i-hate-domain.com?

You mean to say I can buy "google-sucks.com" and do whatever I want? Is that even legal?

I think thats where "Trade Mark"/Registered symbol comes into play? Can anybody who has experience with Trade Mark/Registration , know what it costs/takes to protect my domain?

So it is just a sales/marketing tactic, that suggests buying all those 13 other combinations?

Does anybody on java ranch own such combinations? And how would you support your decision in owning them?


Yes, you could buy google-sucks.com and use it as your website. Could you have a company named Google Sucks? Probably not, as that would be getting into infringement. Often, someone will buy multiple similar websites (like googlle.com, googgle.com, etc.) and redirect to their site.

I think it would be really hard, if not impossible, from trademarking your domain to prevent anyone from using anything similar. I mean, as far as google goes, I could be referring to the number and not the company.


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srinivas chary wrote:I think thats where "Trade Mark"/Registered symbol comes into play? Can anybody who has experience with Trade Mark/Registration , know what it costs/takes to protect my domain?


Are you kidding? You were balking at $1200, but now you're considering hiring a bunch of lawyers to register a trade mark? If you were just thinking you'd dream up a name and send it into some registry somewhere and they would charge you $29.95 to say it was a trade mark, well, no, it isn't like that at all. You have to hire an expert who will consider your name and review other similar names which are registered trade marks and see if yours might infringe theirs.
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W. Joe Smith wrote:I mean, as far as google goes, I could be referring to the number and not the company.

Not really. The number is googol, not google.
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Mike Simmons wrote:
W. Joe Smith wrote:I mean, as far as google goes, I could be referring to the number and not the company.

Not really. The number is googol, not google.


You have misunderestimated my ability to not spell things correctly.
Deepak Bala
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Mike Simmons wrote:
W. Joe Smith wrote:I mean, as far as google goes, I could be referring to the number and not the company.

Not really. The number is googol, not google.


Aargh ! beat me to it

You have misunderestimated my ability to not spell things correctly


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srinivas chary wrote:You mean to say I can buy "google-sucks.com" and do whatever I want? Is that even legal?


Legal? there are not many lawyers here at the ranch. But you sure can attempt to buy it, and you will have it, at least until google.com's lawyers send you a long letter. Some level of "parody" and protest are legal, but to be sure, you will have to pay your lawyers lots of money to send long letters to Google's lawyers.

Now that international domains can use non-ASCII characters, you also need to register domain-sucks.com in all the languages and character sets you can think of. There are a lot of character sets, starting with Greek, going to Hebrew, Arabic, then into the many languages of Asia. You could spend a lot of money on "domain-badword" in all the languages these days.

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http://www.googlesux.com/
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Bear Bibeault wrote:If you failed to renew the domains and they no longer belong to you, then you need to buy them from whoever does and they can set whatever price they want for them.

Yeah ...It is like that only.


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