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Job Consultants and Ethics

Sai Surya
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Joined: Feb 08, 2006
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Dear all,

I had received an email from a job consultant recently for an opening with an investment bank through one of
the social networking sites. Until I see the email, I have no intention to change my job. After looking at
the email I felt the job prospects are good and I sent my resume to the consultant after an initial discussion.
From then I started preparing for the interview and 5 days passed away. I still have no response from the
consultant and from the last communication he said, he had forwarded my resume to their client and waiting
for the update from them.

I am in a confused state on what happend to my resume, whether it is shortlisted or not. I've sent an email
to the consultant asking him to confirm whether my resume is shortlisted. No reply! Why I am not getting any
reply? Is it assumed in HR industry that no reply means no luck! I feel I am supposed to know whether my resume
is accepted by the client or not. I they say my resume is not shortlisted thats fine with me. Atleast, I do not
have to spend my time waiting hoping that I will receive interview call.

Please advice on how to deal with this kind of situations.


Thanks & Regards,
Surya.


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Henry Wong
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Sai Surya wrote:
Please advice on how to deal with this kind of situations.


Unfortunately, this seems to be common practice these days. I know of a few people that went though multiple rounds of interviews only to have all communications cease. It does seem a bit unprofessional to not spend 10 seconds to send a rejection email, but what can you do? If you don't get any responses after a few inquires, I recommend to just get the hint and move on.

Now... having said that. Keep in mind that time passes at a different rate from the two perspectives. From your viewpoint, it is five long agonizing days. From the companies viewpoint, it is something of second priority -- as there first priority is to release product. At minimum, this process can take months. And they may want to gather many possibilities that they will cull through, before they even start calling in for interviews.

Henry


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Pushkar Choudhary
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Joined: May 21, 2006
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Henry Wong wrote:I know of a few people that went though multiple rounds of interviews only to have all communications cease.

Happened to me 3 times in this year. Once in a well known investment bank, then in a storage products MNC and a couple of months back in a very very well known product development MNC. So, its not only about consultants, one could have such an experience while applying directly for a big company as well.

Once it so happened that I did not get a call for a scheduled telephonic interview because the interviewer forgot about it!
Deepak Bala
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Once it so happened that I did not get a call for a scheduled telephonic interview because the interviewer forgot about it!


I hope the person in question apologized. But this is an error that is specific to that individual against the attitude that is displayed by a company as a whole.

From then I started preparing for the interview and 5 days passed away.


You press the panic button too soon. But I believe that your take on this will need to change. My advice would be to put your apprehension on the back seat. This is not the only company that will need your skills. If they delay processing your application, someone else is going to figure out that you fit a void in their own organization.

As difficult as it is to say this, Henry is right. Ignoring people is the norm. You should consider it a boon if someone replies to tell you that you are rejected. It is a gold mine if they tell you why.


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Pushkar Choudhary
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Deepak Bala wrote:
Once it so happened that I did not get a call for a scheduled telephonic interview because the interviewer forgot about it!


I hope the person in question apologized. But this is an error that is specific to that individual against the attitude that is displayed by a company as a whole.

He did apologize. And while I totally agree with everything else you've mentioned in your post, I think when one goes through an interview process, they interact with only a bunch of people (typically not more than 4-5). And these people, in my view, represent the company that is interviewing you. So, while forgetting about the interview maybe a one-off thing and isn't a big deal, I do think the instances where the person just didn't reply at all after a few rounds (whatever be the reason), makes me rethink about applying to the company, because now I have a not-so-good impression about the company. But again, this is my opinion and someone else might react differently.
Henry Wong
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Pushkar Choudhary wrote:But again, this is my opinion and someone else might react differently.


In 100% agreement. I really don't understand how this could ever have become normal.

I have actually seen a case (only one case, so not statically significant), where the candidate finally did reach the interviewer, and was told to just "go away". This candidate later found a job working for a customer of the company, and had affect on purchasing. Kind of made life of the sales force for the company a bit difficult (lots of hoops to jump through), and even some lost sales.

Of course, that's an extreme case. Hopefully, I will always remember to respond to every request when interviewing, and not take it that personally if it ever happens to me.

Henry
Sai Surya
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I tried to reach the consultant and finally I managed to talk to him. He said my resume was not shortlisted. I have the experience in the product client is using and my cv exactly matches with their job requirement. Still the cv is not shortlisted. I asked consultant to check with client on why my resume was not shortlisted. Later he said the client is not giving him any feedback.

Atleast, if they give feedback to the rejected candidates on why the cv/interview didn't go well, the candidates like me can improve when applying next time.
Parag Pathak
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Job consultants are very good people, except one thing is that they assume world is stupid and they have extra brain.
Sai Surya
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Parag Pathak wrote:Job consultants are very good people, except one thing is that they assume world is stupid and they have extra brain.


well said! I got another mail for some opening. The consultant gave only very brief description of skills required for the job and nothing mentioned about experience. I called him to check for more details, he rudely said "I will check your cv and get back to you!" and disconnected the phone. How is he going to check
my cv if I don't send it to him?

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