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Use of Adobe Flex for part 2

srivastava ashish
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My application requires rich UI features including Video rendering capabilities .I want to use to use Adobe flex/ADF for that .Is it okay with SCEA point of view ?? Any suggestions?

Ashish
Ravi Iyer
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Hi Ashish - the general guideline as I understand is that your representation in UML should be framework agnostic.
So I'd imagine that the representation of your flex system being used should be replaceable by any other framework (OpenLaslow, maybe?).

Maybe someone else can chip in but I'd design my diagram around this assumption.

Rgds


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P Das
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When you move through CIM>PIM>PSM, you move further and further away from being framework agnostic...or did I interpreted the previous respondent incorrld ectly?

The basic question was whether it would be permitted to use .a particular framework.

I should say there are two options:
(1) First write to Sun Education seeking a clarification; wait for a reasonable time.
(2) If you get a response, your problem is resolved. Else, make assumptions (state it in your assignment in as many words as it takes) and go ahead implementing your way.

May I invite responses from more experienced people in the ranch?


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Ravi Iyer
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I'd like to hear other views as well. From what I've seen and heard, it doesn't look like one can expect to hear back with more details on the assignment from Sun/Oracle. WYSIWYG and no more.

Rgds

Ravi
Andrew Monkhouse
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I would advise against writing to Sun/Oracle for clarification. As the architect of this solution, you are expected to be the expert, and you are the person others are looking to for the decision.


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P Das
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It seems that many people does not have great faith on Sun Education's responsiveness; however, my experience is different. At least, there is no harm in writing back and waiting for a reasonable time before proceeding. That would be safer than going one's own way, isn't it?

Also, going by the oft-repeated "guidelines" that are not found in Sun's assignment but in some books/blogs only, it seems to be better to be able to mention in one's assumptions that one has already sought for clarifications that was overdue. You don't know if some evaluator is following some guideline that is unknown to you. This type of potholes does not feature the road a professional architect is expected to tread on. Hence, the situations are not exactly comparable.
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P Das wrote:It seems that many people does not have great faith on Sun Education's responsiveness; however, my experience is different. At least, there is no harm in writing back and waiting for a reasonable time before proceeding. That would be safer than going one's own way, isn't it?

No harm; but it could waste time.

P Das wrote:Also, going by the oft-repeated "guidelines" that are not found in Sun's assignment but in some books/blogs only, it seems to be better to be able to mention in one's assumptions that one has already sought for clarifications that was overdue. You don't know if some evaluator is following some guideline that is unknown to you. This type of potholes does not feature the road a professional architect is expected to tread on. Hence, the situations are not exactly comparable.

I agree it is good to mention all assumptions regardless of asking. I agree with Andrew that you should assume and move on regardless of how frustrating it seems. The intent is that everyone gets provided the same information and completes the assignment. Assuming is fine. Asking seems redundant.

This reminds me of a test in high school or college/university. You answer the questions, you don't ask the teacher for clarification.

And finally, there are plenty of potholes a professional architect needs to deal with. Including trying to guess what the user really wants. Granted you can ask questions then. But the assumptions are a first stab at that. You can even list as an assumption that you asked an imaginary user something and he said X.


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P Das
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I am rather surprised by previous respondent's mentioning that asking is redundant: you need to ask every time and try to get clarifications as much as possible in even a real architectural scenario. I do not know whether he has faced non-responsiveness or not; however, for one more time I repeat that I got every clarification to my questions. However, I did not say that one should sit indefinitely if the other side is non-responsive.

I guess, the school/college example is far-fetched; still, one should ask if one is unclear. The nature and extent of responses is in hands of the person being asked.
P Das
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Sorry, I forgot to mention that I got response to every question I had asked from Sun/Oracle. Sometimes, they took a little longer than what I expected; I decided to wait. If you don't or can't you have to assume. Moreover, you can ask questions that are not possible in forums such as this one since they would be barred.
Jeanne Boyarsky
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"She" not "he." I'm female.

I did not try asking a question about the problem. I listed all my assumptions. In the real world, of course I would ask.
P Das
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Sorry for my grammar; what I wanted to communicate is following:
1) Reason would suggest that Sun should expect a test taker to follow a realistic approach to the assignment; logical and realistic approach to disambiguation should be one of them.
2) It really should not matter if Sun does not reply but you did ask and mention that (with reference of email) in your assumption.
3) Your approach of hypothetically mentioning the same may be good but too hypothetical, IMHO.

In any case, thanks for pondering over my responses. Hope, you forgive my language.
Jeanne Boyarsky
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Language is fine. I don't expect you to know I'm female. I point it out so that you know in the future. Otherwise it is my own fault if I keep getting called "he."

I think we have a legitimate difference of opinion here and I'm glad we both posted the reasons behind our thought process.
 
It is sorta covered in the JavaRanch Style Guide.
 
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