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Struts Survey - Please respond

Jason Menard
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I have a question for those who are using Struts. I'd be really interested in which of the following best applies to you?

1. Prior to learning Struts, I was well versed in Servlets and JSP, and had professional experience developing applications using Servlets and JSP.

2. Prior to learning Struts, I had read books about Servlets and JSP (or taken the SCWCD exam), but had no professional experience developing applications using JSP and Servlets.

3. Prior to learning Struts, I had little knowledge concerning Servlets and JSP.

This all relates to a future topic I'd like to discuss, so I think it would be great if we could have a bunch of people answer this truthfully.
[ July 06, 2005: Message edited by: Jason Menard ]
Merrill Higginson
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Number 1 for me. I was well versed in Servlets and JSP before tackling Struts.


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James Swan
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1.
Kalyana Sundaram
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I am in No 1. I had profession experience in servlets and JSP before I get into STRUTS.

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Mishra Anshu
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1.


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Pravin Jagan
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I was working earlier with core java and later started to work in web application. At that time struts was new to me.. So no 3 applies to me
Cendy Nguvy
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Number 3 for me.
I had little professional experience developing applications using JSP and Servlets before learning Struts.
Nakata kokuyo
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2. here
Srilakshmi Vara
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No 1. I had good experience in servlets and JSP before I started using Struts framework.
Satish SN
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No 1. I had good experience in servlets and JSP before I started using Struts framework.


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chsanthosh kumar
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No:1
for me Because i had professional exp in servlets and jsp before going to struts.


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Ray Stojonic
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3
Ajay Reddy
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I fall under category 3.
Pranav Sharma
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No. 2
Gregg Bolinger
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3 then 2. I started learning struts then realized I needed more experience with Servlets and JSP. Stopped Struts, got versed in Servlets/JSP then came back to Struts. For the record however, I am not currently using Struts on any projects.


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Marc Peabody
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#2 with failure, then #1 with success.

I tried learning Struts after getting SCWCD when I had very little working experience. I didn't understand it.

I tried learning it again a year later after gaining more professional experience and it made more sense then.


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louise rochford
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Jason Menard
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For the record, #1.
alan do
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had a couple of beers then #1 before learning struts.


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Tim West
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3...I learned Struts, JSP and Servlets all at the same time. I reckon you end up blurring the concepts of each pretty heavily in learning this way - I'm going to go over Servlets and JSP separately as soon as I find a spare few hours

Learning all 3 at the same time is like learning the 'practice' without the 'theory' in any area...I can make stuff work, but I don't really know how it all ties together. Not a nice feeling, I reckon.


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Franck Tranchant
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#2 for me


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Harinath Kuntamukkala
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No:2
Marco Vanoli
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2

i started with servlet last year, then tried to pass struts but i needed to study jsp an jstl(important) before .

Now i' am integrationg it with hibernate and Session Beans.
I found useful as guidelines ,
Daliluna tutorial

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Jeanne Boyarsky
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#1 for me


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sameer inamdar
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2 or 3..
As i have gone through lots of examples and worked with struts and my compnent developed was utilized by the team actually implimenting there solutions using struts so i have little expossure.

Also i have gone through examples and read a lot but still need to review and do more examples. I have not given certification.

But I like struts and would like to share my views and code with you guys

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vijaya bharath
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I fall under 3. I have little knowledge in JSP and Servlets and now iam learning Struts


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Raghavendra nandavar
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I fall into the 2nd category
AnilPrakash Raju
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no 1 for me.

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Jack Wiesenthaler
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Brett Han
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Hmm...a mixture of all three.

Decent knowledge of Servlets, but minimal professional experience.

No practical knowledge of JSP.
meera rao
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Manish Hatwalne
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1 for me -- but not much of JSP but lot of servlets.

Now a 10 months ago I strated with latest project on struts, and I am using velocity instead of JSP. IMHO -- it's much cleaner and better approach.

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Arvind Sampath
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I hardly had any professional experience in Jsp,Servlets prior to learning
struts. But by that time, I had read quite a few books on Servlets.
Jason Menard
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I just wanted to point out that this thread is a follow on to this informal survey.
Barend Garvelink
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3. I jumped right into J2EE with Struts. However, prior to that, I was already familiar with J2SE and I had a few years experience writing small-to-medium webapps using PHP3 and PHP4. I was up to speed with the web container very quickly.

Also, in writing PHP I previously had invented the front-controller design pattern on my own, so Struts wasn't all that alien to me. I knew which problems it's designed to solve, having previously solved them on my own in much the same way. Most of the problems I ran into while learning Struts and J2EE had to do with the Tiles framework and attribute scoping therein.
[ July 24, 2005: Message edited by: Barend Garvelink ]

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Jose Ortuno
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1.
Jaikiran Pai
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Sunoo Varghese
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For the record, #2.
Brian R. Wainwright
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