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Part - II Mock Assignment - can we create?

 
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It is frustrating for many, perhaps, that there is not enough standard mock assignments for the test takers.

Is there any subscriber to my opinion?
 
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I don't need a mock assignment although I would like more info as to what Oracle/Sun is looking for. Especially when it conflicts with what people do in the real world.

I don't find the existing mock (Cade/Sheil) to be that useful though. It clearly doesn't contain everything needed to be a passing assignment and isn't clear on what was glossed over. So *more* of those wouldn't help me.
 
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I am not talking about a mock assignment like the one given in some book: I am talking about a real life project, scaled down perhaps, that we could discuss and resolve as a community. Would that be helpful?
 
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There are two case studies in the JEE Tutorial. Do those not meet what you are trying to do?
 
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Or maybe you mean design rather than implementation?
 
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The idea is to take a scaled down but realistic business problem and collaboratively represent it, and design solution(s) architecture.

By taking help of this forum will allow one to have different viewpoints.

I guess there should be no objection if we take the approach: domain model, description, use cases, class diag, interaction diag, component diag, deployment diag, risk list, and assumptions.

What do you say? If you think positive, I can start a thread with the outlines of a business problem.
 
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P Das wrote:What do you say? If you think positive, I can start a thread with the outlines of a business problem.

I'd like to hear from a moderator who isn't involved in this thread. I'll e-mail one.
 
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I have some basic concerns that stem from the fact that we cannot discuss the real assignments / solutions. So anyone working on the mock assignment would have to be really really careful not to go over that line. Speaking from experience it is incredibly hard to develop a mock assignment that can be solved without giving away solutions to the real assignment. So if we did go down this path, we would need to have an extra level of moderation on anything to do with the mock assignment to ensure that:

  • The problem domain different than the real assignments
  • Solutions to the mock assignment do not result in solutions to the real assignment
  • Working on the mock assignment helps candidates in thinking about how they might work on their real assignment

  • That last point also highlights another issue: since the way the real assignment is marked is completely opaque to us, it is quite possible that solutions (or the mindset for solutions) developed for the mock assignment could result in everyone following the mock to create solutions for the real assignment that are 100% wrong.

    If you think that you can fit your mock assignment within those rules, then maybe we can try it out. But be aware that there is going to be a higher level of moderation than normal (and I know some people already feel that there is too much moderation in this forum).
     
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    Hi Andrew,

    I am glad that you raised the right concerns: I am going to post my first mock test subject inviting readers to create a domain first. Please check under my name.

    Regards,
     
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    It is sorta covered in the JavaRanch Style Guide.
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