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vijay jamadade
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Hi,
I am working for CMM level 5 company and have around 4 yrs of exp in java . I was allocated to a project which was starting from scratch. From java side we were 4 member team and we really worked hard to make project stable. Now client is adding a new technology work to project for which i was insisting my manager from last 3 months. But when 2 more senior resources joined the project after wards, my manager gave them a quality work and also the work i was insisting was given to one of them which he also don't have any experience in. I really got upset as i had a feeling of being sidelined while allocating work and had a discussion with manager. Still he denied my request and doesn't had proper justification.

Now situation is i am really disappointed with my manager's decision and asked him to release me from project. I didn't get what i was deserving after putting so much efforts for the project.

what you guys would have done in this situation if you were sidelined like this? I mean what would you suggest if nothing is helping you in such a situation.

Regards, Vijay Jamadade.
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Henry Wong
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vijay jamadade wrote:From java side we were 4 member team and we really worked hard to make project stable. Now client is adding a new technology work to project for which i was insisting my manager from last 3 months. But when 2 more senior resources joined the project after wards, my manager gave them a quality work and also the work i was insisting was given to one of them which he also don't have any experience in. I really got upset as i had a feeling of being sidelined while allocating work and had a discussion with manager. Still he denied my request and doesn't had proper justification.

Now situation is i am really disappointed with my manager's decision and asked him to release me from project. I didn't get what i was deserving after putting so much efforts for the project.


To be quite honest, all other things being equal, if I have two employees, where one is more experience than the other, that both don't know a particular technology regarding a project, I would assign the task to the more senior person.

I understand that you are disappointed, but I don't understand what makes you think you deserve a project. Manager assign projects based on time lines, priorities, experience, etc., and not who calls it first.


On the other hand, I would think about why the manager didn't assign the project based on the fact that he knows you more than the newer senior person. Does it mean that he doesn't trust your skills? Does it mean that you don't work well with him? ... This may be a sign that you don't have a good relationship with your manager.

And of course, the last part is opinion...
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Jeanne Boyarsky
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vijay jamadade wrote:Now situation is i am really disappointed with my manager's decision and asked him to release me from project. I didn't get what i was deserving after putting so much efforts for the project.

This doesn't seem like a good idea. It suggests you are hard to work with and not patient when you don't get what you want.

vijay jamadade wrote:what you guys would have done in this situation if you were sidelined like this? I mean what would you suggest if nothing is helping you in such a situation.

Ask why. Sometimes it is because you are needed elsewhere. Or any number of reasons.


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vijay jamadade
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Does it mean that he doesn't trust your skills? Does it mean that you don't work well with him?

And of course, the last part is opinion..


Hey Henry, same thing I asked but answer was he needed a senior resource. thats it which was not justifying to me. In spite of the issues that i handled successfully. That time he had trust on my tech skills and suddenly when he got more resources he sidelined us.

You were talking about some opinion.. What is that?


@ Jeanne

This doesn't seem like a good idea. It suggests you are hard to work with and not patient when you don't get what you want.

Ask why. Sometimes it is because you are needed elsewhere. Or any number of reasons.



I loose my patience as this was the second time he did this with me. Earlier he was ready to give same work to resource with experience less than me. When he had need everybody was fine for him as he had resource crunch at that time. What should i do ? Working in this project, I feel one day like one year

I mean what should be my decision now?


Jimmy Clark
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Now client is adding a new technology work to project for which i was insisting my manager from last 3 months. But when 2 more senior resources joined the project after wards, my manager gave them a quality work and also the work i was insisting was given to one of them which he also don't have any experience in.


If this is an internal project and the "client" is part of your organization then the manager's decision may be questionable.

If the "client" is external and paying your company for services, then the manager seems to have made a good decision. Two more resources joining the project may mean that there are two more billable resources, i.e. increase in project revenue/profit. It would be better to assign the new resources to the new stuff and keep you working at the same stuff since you would have more knowledge and experience with this part of the project compared to new staff joining the team.

I suggest you improve your team interactions and stop comparing yourself to others. Try to improve the relationship with the manager and respect his/her decision and try your best to help the new staff with their work.

My opinions above are only based upon an outsider's perspective of what might be the situation. 4 years experience is still very little and in some cases senior staff is required to improve chances of success, customer perceptions, etc.




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vijay jamadade wrote:I mean what should be my decision now?

Repeating my earlier advice, ask your manager. Tell him you want to grow and you want to know what you need to do to make yourself eligible for such opportunities in the future.
vijay jamadade
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I did that but in spite of having around 4 years of experience my boss told me that i need to have some more experience. I was not happy with this and got myself released from project.

Now I am searching some other opportunity.... But still i will keep in mind the suggestions you guys have posted.
Thanks.
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I have been in this situation as well. I have been in situations where I was the go to person, and my efforts were well recognized and then to find after being restructured, no longer the same recognition as the new manager doesn't know much about you. He/she will bring his/her own people without giving yourself a chance to prove yourself.


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