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Experience Catch-22

 
Eric Butler
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I've encountered a lot of situations where my college education is part of the prerequisite but so is multiple years of experience at nearly every position I see. I don't have multiple years of work experience because I was in college full-time yet this doesn't seem to count. I'm having such a hard time breaking this loop. Any suggestions/advice from people who've experienced the same situation and gotten out?
 
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Some entry level positions don't require experience. Nor do internships.

Do you have any office experience? Part time job maybe?
 
Eric Butler
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I've worked in offices before. Was a graduate assistant in college and I'm really good with software and typing. I'm doing technical support in a cell center right now.
Most internships I've seen discriminate against post-graduates. I suppose they have their reasons but I've inquired to numerous and been told that.
 
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To break this viscious cycle, there is no other options than to give what the prospective employers are looking for. Here are some of my thoughts

http://www.coderanch.com/t/421990/Jobs/careers/Handy-tips-some-work-experience

http://www.coderanch.com/t/33396/Jobs/careers/handy-job-hunting-tips-tough

It is not easy, keep at it and you will succeed. Keep applying for jobs while focussing on gaining some hands-on experience through avenues described above and add it to your CV/Resume.

 
Eric Butler
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Thanks for the links. I'll investigate them more thoroughly in the next few days. I know there's a Java Users Group here and I plan on going and participating from now on.
 
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How about contributing to an online forum? I used to tell prospective employers to google my name. Guess what the first hit is. NOTE: do not do this if you have ever posted pictures of yourself doing anything unsavory. They will be found
What we are looking for are people who have a genuine enthusiasm for technology and programming. We have plenty of people who are willing to put in 8 hours a day for a paycheck. The people who care about what they are producing and who want to make better processes/systems/code are the same ones who are setting up wireless streaming media networks in their homes ( to use my last week's personal achievement for an example).
Arulk touches on this topic when he says to work on open source or personal code projects. Someone who is really interested in coding isn't waiting for a job to do it. She's writing scripts to normalise the tags in her MP3 collection (we hired that girl in a heartbeat). I have had a personal website for years that I've done all sorts of fun stuff with (on-demand picture scaling, flat-file database for image captions, web services, DDNS. . .).
So what are you interested in, and how can you use your knowledge to enhance it?
 
Eric Butler
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hehe, I've written a script to normalize winamp tags. Never thought much of it. I do have a domain, I think I will start posting my projects up there for potential employers to see.
 
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