I saw something the other day, and can't find it right now. It was a series of photos of a chalkboard, with writing on it that proves that Santa must exist.
The basic premise was that modern physics states that EVERY possibility is accounted for via a series of infinite universes. Even if Santa does not exist in this universe, there must be an infinite number of OTHER universes where he DOES exist.
Then, clearly, in SOME of those universes (technically an infinite number of them), Santa can travel between universes - and get to ours. Therefore, he must exist and come to our universe.
So this all sounded perfectly logical to me, until I thought of something. Surely there must be an infinite number of universes where the very presence of Santa is impossible. The Universe itself would reject him, destroying him (and possibly itself) should he appear.
So now I don't know if this universe I live in is the kind that he does come to, the kind he hasn't come to yet, or the kind that destroyed him when he showed up a long time ago. Or something else.
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fred rosenberger wrote:The basic premise was that modern physics states that EVERY possibility is accounted for via a series of infinite universes.
Here's where the shell game starts. First we're talking about a "possibility". Then we start talking about "Santa" without asking whether that's a valid substitution for "possibility".
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If we tie the idea of infinite universes to cross-posting in MD, then I'd say that somewhere a monkey with a typewriter has already created Santa using Perl...
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In my mind, that logic could also be used to say that yes, Santa exists, but there are an infinite number of universes where Santa actually TAKES gifts from houses, rather than deliver them. And getting that many presents Christmas morning is so mind-boggling that my head would explode if I even began to know what I was talking about.
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fred rosenberger wrote:... Then, clearly, in SOME of those universes ... Santa can travel between universes...
Well, clearly, that depends on our definition of "universe."
Words like "clearly" or "obviously" imply a logical sleight of hand to me. A bit of smoke and mirrors. If not smoke, then at least ashes and soot. Or maybe a lump of coal (if it's clean coal).
fred rosenberger wrote:...and get to ours.
But even if travel between universes is allowed, wouldn't there also need to exist (an infinite number of) "closed" universes that don't allow such travel, of which ours might be one? In other words, must these "mechanisms" allowing such travel be omnipresent? Isn't it at least a "possibility" they're not?
fred rosenberger wrote:... Therefore, he must exist and come to our universe. [But]... Surely there must be an infinite number of universes where the very presence of Santa is impossible. The Universe itself would reject him...
Ay, what would Bertrand Russell say about that? Ho, ho, ho...!
I'm not arguing that Santa Claus doesn't exist. Indeed, it's obvious he does. But the proof is trivial, and left as an exercise.
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Maneesh Godbole wrote:Santa was never born and he never dies. He just trips from universe to parallel universe, changing forms.
His last sighting was rumored to be here
I think you are right. I just saw a moose above the santa.
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Well, even if there *are* multiple universes, they can not have any effect on each other, by the definition of Universe. If Santa exists, he is a product of our own universe.
It's a bit similar to the question "what came before the big bang?". The answer is, it doesn't matter. Even if there was a time before the big bang, events during that time could never affect us.
fred rosenberger wrote:The basic premise was that modern physics states that EVERY possibility is accounted for via a series of infinite universes. Even if Santa does not exist in this universe, there must be an infinite number of OTHER universes where he DOES exist.
Has there been a proof of multiple universes?
My answer to the question is simple: Santa exists and I am he. And when I am done, my child will be Santa to his children and so on. Sort of like Dread Pirate Roberts.
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