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CX-311-232 - No Exam Topics at Oracle site?

Prash Negu
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Hi,

When i looked at Oracle site for 311-232 exam, there are no Exam topics listed.

Where can i find the exam topics?

Thanks,
Prashant
Mikalai Zaikin
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Hello,

Beta exam page


Exam topics:


* Create an SOAP web service in a servlet container
* Create a RESTful web service in a servlet container
* Create a SOAP based web service implemented by an EJB component
* Create a RESTful web service implemented by an EJB component
* Configure JavaEE security for a SOAP web service
* Create a web service client for a SOAP based web service
* Create a web service client for a RESTful web service
* Create a SOAP based web service using Java SE platform
* Create handlers for SOAP web services
* Create low-level SOAP web services
* Use MTOM and MIME in a SOAP web service
* Use WS-Addressing with a SOAP web service
* Configure Message Level security for a SOAP web service
* Apply best practices to design and implement web services


Free SCDJWS 5.0 Study Guide - SCDJWS 5.0 Quiz (How to get SCDJWS 5.0 Quiz)
Java Platform, Enterprise Edition 6 Web Services Developer Certified Expert Exam Study Guide and Quiz
Prash Negu
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Thank you. Any idea when will be the expected production date?

Thanks,
Prashant
Mikalai Zaikin
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Prash Negu wrote:Thank you. Any idea when will be the expected production date?

Thanks,
Prashant


Sorry, no idea. Oracle promised exam released 12 weeks after beta period finished, but already passed 13 weeks after September 30th.

Best regards,
MZ
Karan Jeev
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Joined: Apr 29, 2007
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the exam is in production now.
By the way, I am unable to find Mikalai Zaikin's http://java.boot.by/scdjws5-guide/ in pdf format. Is anyone aware of its availability ?
Pravin Jose
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Joined: Jan 16, 2011
Posts: 6

Hi Karan
Can you please provide the link to the webpage which has details of the production version of the exam CX-310-232 (Java Platform, Enterprise Edition 6 Web Services Developer Certified Professional Exam)? I am from India. Do you know whether this exam is currently available in India?

I searched in <certification.oracle.com > for the the details of this exam today (16th Jan 2011). I could find a web page which says that the period Beta exam got over on September 30th 2010.
CX-310-232)

I got this web page when I changed the Country/Region to United States. As per the information on this webpgae, it looks like the production version of the exam is not available yet.

Can you please provide me the details of the topics covered in the production version of this exam? Any information about the Java Web Services Developer exam would be of great help.

Thanks
Pravin
Mikalai Zaikin
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Hello Pravin,

CX-310-232 should be available not earlier than mid of Feb 2011 - this is what OCP Team announced recently.

Right now the latest production exam is CX-310-230 (and CX-310-231 for upgrade).

Best regards,
MZ
Pravin Jose
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Hi Mikalai

Thank you very much for providing the information.
I saw the following comment from you under the topic "Between OCPJWSD 5(CX-310-230) and 6(CX-310-232)"

[Some thoughts...


CX-310-232 is not yet available (see attached screenshot)
JEE6 exam is newer, has less JAXR :-) and fair amount JAX-RS questions
JEE5 exam is older, has more JAXR garbage and only 1..2 high level JAX-RS question. Plus JEE5 exam has more feedbacks and more study material.]


I am thinking that I can start preparing for this certification according topics mentioned for CX-310-230. (I have to try hard to find time to learn after my office hours ) In the mean time if the new version (CX-310-232) becomes available, I can go for CX-310-232 after learning the additional topics.

I understand that compared to CX-310-230, you are expecting that in CX-310-232 the number of questions on the topic JAX-RS would increase and the number of questions on the topic JAX-R would decrease.

I hope that if I am well prepared on the the topic JAX-RS, I can go for CX-310-232 without much difficulties (if I prepare for (CX-310-230).

Do you forsee any other topics given for CX-310-230 would gain or loose importance in CX-310-232 exam? Also any idea on new topics that may be included for CX-310-232? I understand that you may not be be able to provide accurate answers for my questions, but any guidance/help on these would be of great help for me.

Thanks for your time!

Regards
Pravin
Mikalai Zaikin
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Besides JAX-RS, I expect main difference of JEE6 exam compared to JEE5 exam:
1) More questions on JAX-WS annotations
2) MTOM questions (both server-side and client-side)
3) WS-Addressing (both server-side and client-side)

Best regards,
MZ
Pravin Jose
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Pravin Jose
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Posts: 6
Oracle Certified Expert, Java Platform, Enterprise Edition 6 Web Services Developer(CX-310-232)

This exam will be available at www.prometric.com/oracle on February 8, 2011.
Prash Negu
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Pravin,

Did you find detailed exam topics anywhere?

Thanks,
Prashant
Pravin Jose
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I could not find it yet. Still searching. Please let me know, if you find it before I do.
Pravin Jose
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Did anybody find detailed topics for the exam? Does anybody have any additional details about Exam Topics other than what is listed below?
Any help regarding detailed exam topics would be really appriciated.

Exam Topics
Create an SOAP web service in a servlet container
Create a RESTful web service in a servlet container
Create a SOAP based web service implemented by an EJB component
Create a RESTful web service implemented by an EJB component
Configure JavaEE security for a SOAP web service
Create a web service client for a SOAP based web service
Create a web service client for a RESTful web service
Create a SOAP based web service using Java SE platform
Create handlers for SOAP web services
Create low-level SOAP web services
Use MTOM and MIME in a SOAP web service
Use WS-Addressing with a SOAP web service
Configure Message Level security for a SOAP web service
Apply best practices to design and implement web services
Mark Garland
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I'm looking for these detailed exam topics too. I've emailed the OCP Team pointing out that the older version 5 exam has over 4 pages of detailed exam topics, and yet this exam (CX-310-232) has just 14 lines.
They've got a 5 day SLA, and I'll let you know if they respond with anything useful.


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satish jupalli
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This is the response I got from OCP team when I requested them for the detailed objectives. What I understood from their reply is they are trying hard to sell their training courses.




You can view the exam topics on our web page http://education.oracle.com/web_prod-plq-dad/db_pages.getpage?page_id=41&p_exam_id=1Z0_897&p_org_id=1001&lang=US.

Please visit http://education.oracle.com//web_prod-plq-dad/db_pages.getpage?page_id=225 to contact your local Oracle University representative for further guidance. You can also call a representative at 1.800.529.0165.


Regards,
OCP Team

Mark Garland
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Hi Satish,

Almost word for word the response I got. (I've had to wrap the URLs in a code tag, because the forum thought I was using an abbreviation for 'please'! :-)

Hi Mark,

Thank you for writing to Oracle Certification Program.

For all your queries regarding training requirements please visit to contact your local Oracle University representative for further guidance. You can also call a representative at 1.800.529.0165 Oracle University will be better able to assist you with questions on training.
Regarding Exam Oracle Certified Expert, Java Platform, Enterprise Edition 6 Web Services Developer is already released in production version. Please visit our website
for more details.

Regards,
OCP Team



I responded with:

Hi OCP Team,

Thank you for your response.

With respect to training requirements and availability, I originally contacted my local Oracle University representative (Edenrollment - copied), who forwarded my request on to you!

With respect to the exam - are you sure it is released in production? The Exam Topics are just 14 lines, compared with (a normal) 4 pages for the version 5 of the exam?

Thanks,

Mark Garland



And got:
PLEASE ALLOW 5 BUSINESS DAYS FOR A RESPONSE



*sigh*
Will keep you posted.

Thanks,
Joe Harry
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Did you get any response?


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Mark Garland
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Hi Joe,

Yes - just over an hour ago. And totally useless it was too.

Irina, from Edenrollment (my University representative) has been helpful and has said:


Hi Mark

We have forwarded your training queries to our Education Advisers who will contact you with more information


Best regards
Irina


However, the people at suncert_ww (The OCP - Certification Team) have just sent me the same response. It's like they didn't even read my mail.


Hi Mark,

Please refer to the course contents and exam topics while preparing for the exam. Regarding the training requirements you can also call a representative at 1.800.529.0165 Oracle University will be better able to assist you with questions on training.

Regards,
OCP Team


I've gone back with this, but with a 5 day SLA, I'm not hopeful. I'm really disappointed with these responses and this service is surprisingly appalling!


Hi OCP Team,

With respect, I'm not convinced that your response addresses my question.

For training, Irina (the person I originally emailed) is getting an Education Adviser to contact me - so this is hopefully sorted.

However, with respect to the exam topics, I am well aware that I need to refer to them when preparing for the exam. However, my concern (and the concern of a number of people on various forums) is that the exam topics for this exam are just 14 lines compared with (a normal) 5 pages for version 5 of the exam. To me, these exam topics look incomplete? I'd appreciate it if you could look into this further, as without fuller and less vague exam topics, preparing for and taking the exam is just not feasible.

Thanks,


Sorry to not be more helpful - but I'll keep trying!

MG
Joe Harry
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Thanks for the reply. But do keep posting the communication from Oracle as soon as you receive it.
Sundeep Nanua
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Usually, the topics covered with the 'suggested/recommended training' for a certification exam contains a more detailed topic, like in this case:

training page


Its a bit indirect, but you can get some relation to the topics given in the training and from what is mentioned in the actual exam. And since the recommended training material is also geared for the actual exam, i think its safe to assume that the topics mentioned in the link pretty much covers everything for the exam.


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Mark Garland
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Hi Sundeep - thanks for the tip. It's something to work with.


However, I've had some success!
I was just called from somebody from Oracle who told me (and emailed me confirmation) that the certification team have acknowledged and are aware that the exam topics are not sufficiently detailed, and that it is something they are actively working on. He suggested a couple of weeks, but could be a month, and has promised to update me once the topics are amended.

I hope that his predictions are correct and that this provides some reassurance to people on here.

Thanks,

MG
Mark Garland
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Hi all,

Having exceeded their own timescales by some way, I re-chased and have now been told "this will be reviewed next month".

I'm rapidly losing faith in these guys.

I'll keep you posted.

MG
Mike Zal
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I think Oracle is purposefully making all the objectives extremely vague to get people to buy their "official training kits". Compare the Objectives of the pl/sql 10g objectives to the pl/sql 11g exam objectives. I also don't understand why the "authorized practice exams" are 2/3 the cost of the actual exam. At that price, it seems like a better deal to just take the exam twice.

I guess Oracle thinks people are willing to buy the self study cd ($600) + practice exam ($130) + exam cost ($195).


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Mikalai Zaikin
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Hi All,

I would suggest you guys not to wait till Oracle decide to release detailed objectives and proceed with reading of specifications.

All new JEE 6 exams released recently by Oracle have this problem, I doubt Oracle will want to provide "traditional" objectives for all of them.

Also, they are busy with JEE6 JSF exam, which still to be released.

Best regards,
MZ
smithan reddy singidi
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Mark Garland wrote:Hi all,

Having exceeded their own timescales by some way, I re-chased and have now been told "this will be reviewed next month".

I'm rapidly losing faith in these guys.

I'll keep you posted.

MG


Hi Mark,
I sincerely appreciate your time on this and thanks for keeping us updated.

Did you happen to get the detailed exam topics?

Greatly appreciate if you could share any alternates or references for preparing this exam.

Thanks,
Smith
 
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