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Each of them have the same text. Each of them even use the same presentation (html table). I didn't thoroughly read each but I didn't see where any of them quote their sources. In this age of information super highway, is plagiarism dead?
With so much vast resources on the web, people often think that its difficult to track the articles (copied or taken as a basis). But with more intelligent Search engines, all of the related articles are thrown together But, yes, we ought to mention the source from which the article is based on.
And moreover these articles are just for the sake of information and mostly dont claim for any benefit from the articles written (except that they get some content and traffic)
Ulf Dittmer wrote:
Roseindia is a terrible site full of bad advice and bad coding practices, all in the name of "teaching"; seeing it stoop to ripping off other sites doesn't surprise me the least bit.
Lot of times I end up on this site only to find- the articles surrounded with ads and bad formatting which often doesn't encourage me to read the content from there.
Interestingly, in order to comply with the Apache license and transform these usages from theft to legitimate licensed use, all these sites would have needed to do is add some simple Apache licensing info to the pages. (Even in a comment visible only in source, as done on the Apache page.) But apparently that was too much trouble - blatant theft is easier, apparently.
I should mention that we've seen a number of entire sites whose content consists of nothing but copied JavaRanch forum content. We actively work to get those sites taken down -- but it's disheartening to see it being done.
To answer the question, "Is plagiarism dead?" I'd say "No", sadly, not at all -- I think technology has made it far easier, and provided more incentive to do it.
I agree with Ernest. Theft is bad. I actually had something happen recently where a PDF file I created was reformatted and posted. It had a reference to my work, but I didn't find it clear enough. The author reworded in a way I'm happy with and now it is no longer theft/plagarism. It is now used with my permission.
One incident Ernest referred to is explained on reddit. I'm impressed that it got almost two thousand upvotes.
On the original question, I don't think plagiarism is dead. I do think that it is easier to do and easier to detect. When I was in graduate school, we had to submit many papers to a plagiarism checking service before the instructor would grade it.
Tom Reilly wrote: I was asking whether the concept of plagiarism being bad is dead.
I have two views on this. I write software for a living. I expect to get paid. So I think that musicians, actors, etc. should get paid for their work as well. Food has to get bought, rent paid, etc. and that takes money. So ripping off software, articles, music or movies is very bad.
I think in practice, the idea of paying for content is falling out of favor. The early Internet/Arpanet was completely non-commercial. These days, Internet is moving into countries and cultures where the idea of private property is simply not there. In a classic communist country, even the pigs and sheep you raise are owned in common, its not yours. So there is no private property, let alone private ownership of invisible things.
So, with a slightly broader restatement of the OP question: Is the value of intellectual property dying?
As the context of question is already broaden , on the same note, Cloud environment will give some relief from piracy IMO.
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Saurabh Pillai wrote:As the context of question is already broaden , on the same note, Cloud environment will give some relief from piracy IMO.
Care to explain why you think that? One might expect things to get worse, the easier it is to distribute digital content.
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Ulf Dittmer wrote:Care to explain why you think that? One might expect things to get worse, the easier it is to distribute digital content.
Thank you for asking. This is how I see it. I am working on a SaaS project. If my client had decided to make a software instead then it is highly possible , it would be pirated. but as it is SaaS , we have a control over it and no software distribution is needed.
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OK, but that has nothing in particular to do with clouds - it's just a general feature of web sites and hosted services: that their code is not accessible to the people using it. (SaaS, of course, is just a different name for ASP, and has been around for almost as long as the web.)
This topic seems to have blurred a bit. There is a difference between plagiarism and piracy. The first is theft of intellectual property, while the second is theft of goods (which may include intellectual property).
For the record, they are both bad -- with arguably some of the same reasons (along with different reasons) why.
I dont think plagarism is dead. Not at all, in fact there is more copying of articles and websites and all that stuff than ever before. Because people want more content and and are always trying to post new stuff on their blogs, etc.
The programs have become more smart though at finding copied images and things. So I guess no it's not dead, but people have become smarter about it.