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dave mitrione
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Hi All,

I am confused about a few things since the Exam changed it's name from SCEA and started focusing on ejb3. I am hopeful that someone who has passed the recent version of the exam is able to provide me with some answers:

1. Are there any UML questions?
2. How detailed are the ejb questions? Do you need to know the states or just appropiate usage for stateful, stateless and entity?
3. Are answering the questions of the Mark Cade book of similar difficulty to the actual exam questions?
4. Has the exam increased in length? Wasn't there originaly 48 questions vs 64 now?
5. Are design pattern questions asked in the context of ejbs or more gernerally?

Any feedback is greatly appreciated

Cheers.



Jeanne Boyarsky
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Please see your private messages about an important matter.

Changing the name to OCMJEA was just Oracle branding. That didn't change the focus. There isn't a focus on EJB 3. The focus is on JEE 5. Which happens to include EJB 3.

1) Not on my exam, but I suppose there could be.
2) You don't need to know the states. There is a separate exam for EJB development.
3) Yes.
4) It's 64 questions now. Don't know if it was originally shorter.
5) More general. There isn't a focus on EJBs on the exam.


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Out of curiosity..after architecting the Matrix.. why would you be interested in appearing for a Sun/Oracle Cert?



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dave mitrione
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matrix architect wrote:Hi All,

I am confused about a few things since the Exam changed it's name from SCEA and started focusing on ejb3. I am hopeful that someone who has passed the recent version of the exam is able to provide me with some answers:

1. Are there any UML questions?
2. How detailed are the ejb questions? Do you need to know the states or just appropiate usage for stateful, stateless and entity?
3. Are answering the questions of the Mark Cade book of similar difficulty to the actual exam questions?
4. Has the exam increased in length? Wasn't there originaly 48 questions vs 64 now?
5. Are design pattern questions asked in the context of ejbs or more gernerally?

Any feedback is greatly appreciated

Cheers.





Thanks for your input , I am asking these because

-Mark Cade book mentioned that we only need to know UML for assignment part
- I took a whizlab diagnostic, which is based on the older exam and ejb2 focused, there were so many quesitons about ejb states and what not
- Design pattern questions were also based on ejb
dave mitrione
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Rahul Mishra wrote:Out of curiosity..after architecting the Matrix.. why would you be interested in appearing for a Sun/Oracle Cert?



Remember the matrix is a legacy system proably cobol based . I need to upgrade my skills to be employable in the enterprise world.
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Yes. The exam focus got a lot higher level with version 5. The EJB 2.X exams are misleading now.
dave mitrione
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Jeanne Boyarsky wrote:Yes. The exam focus got a lot higher level with version 5. The EJB 2.X exams are misleading now.


So could your or anyone here recommend any exam material that resembles more closely what this new version of the test is going to be like?

The most frustrating part of this certification is the incomplete and inconsistent material there is out there.

Any assistance would be highly appreciated.

Cheers.
Rahul Mishra
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The JEE 5 tutorial is a good starting point, and then you can explore further based on your stengths/weaknesses...

You can refer the forum FAQ for some pointers..

My SCEA experience (along with recommended reads) can be found @ http://www.javalogue.blogspot.com
dave mitrione
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Rahul Mishra wrote:The JEE 5 tutorial is a good starting point, and then you can explore further based on your stengths/weaknesses...

You can refer the forum FAQ for some pointers..

My SCEA experience (along with recommended reads) can be found @ http://www.javalogue.blogspot.com


I have actually been to your blog and it does contain some useful information. the problem is I don't know what my strengths and weaknesses are until I get a set of relevant questions. I answered most of the questions in the Mark Cade book with ease and I didn't find them difficult at all.

Then I took an old whizlab exam and bombed it, primarly due to ejb2 specific questions which are now phased out.

Can you tell me if there were any UML and internationalization questions in the exam you wrote?

Also what kind of practise testes if any did you use to prepare?

Cheers,
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matrix architect wrote:So could your or anyone here recommend any exam material that resembles more closely what this new version of the test is going to be like?

The Cade questions are a good representation. As are the sample questions provided on Oracle's site. (The free ones; I didn't buy their question set so I can speak to it.)

I summarized what I learned in a resources section. Basically, you shouldn't use any materials that don't explicitly say SCEA 5 on them.
Rahul Mishra
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In addition, if you search this forum - people have recommended some other resources as well

one is http://mycollectivematerial.blogspot.com/

I cannot vouch for the reliability of the answers, but they could be a good starting point for your endeavor..
dave mitrione
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Jeanne Boyarsky wrote:
matrix architect wrote:So could your or anyone here recommend any exam material that resembles more closely what this new version of the test is going to be like?

The Cade questions are a good representation. As are the sample questions provided on Oracle's site. (The free ones; I didn't buy their question set so I can speak to it.)

I summarized what I learned in a resources section. Basically, you shouldn't use any materials that don't explicitly say SCEA 5 on them.


Thank you for the tip. So can you tell me if you had any UML for internationalization questions? As mentioned before the Marc Cade book does not include any chapter on internationalization and explicitly states that UML knowledge is only required for part 2.

His book does not include much on transactions either.

Is this correct? It would make my life way eaasier I knew that.

In general can anyone provide a break down in terms of percentage of topics covered?

Do ejbs still constitute the majority of the questions on the exam or has the distribuiton changed?

Cheers.
dave mitrione
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Rahul Mishra wrote:In addition, if you search this forum - people have recommended some other resources as well

one is http://mycollectivematerial.blogspot.com/

I cannot vouch for the reliability of the answers, but they could be a good starting point for your endeavor..



Thank you, I will take a look. In the meantime could you please tell me if you had any UML or internationalization questions in your exam?

Cheers.
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dave mitrione wrote:Thank you for the tip. So can you tell me if you had any UML for internationalization questions? As mentioned before the Marc Cade book does not include any chapter on internationalization and explicitly states that UML knowledge is only required for part 2. His book does not include much on transactions either.

I did not. I found his advice to be correct in this area.

dave mitrione wrote:In general can anyone provide a break down in terms of percentage of topics covered?

Do ejbs still constitute the majority of the questions on the exam or has the distribuiton changed?

EJBs were in scope although not an emphasis. And they were at a high level. Like which EJB type do you use if you care about scalability. A big emphasis was scenario questions like in the book.
dave mitrione
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Jeanne Boyarsky wrote:
dave mitrione wrote:Thank you for the tip. So can you tell me if you had any UML for internationalization questions? As mentioned before the Marc Cade book does not include any chapter on internationalization and explicitly states that UML knowledge is only required for part 2. His book does not include much on transactions either.

I did not. I found his advice to be correct in this area.

dave mitrione wrote:In general can anyone provide a break down in terms of percentage of topics covered?

Do ejbs still constitute the majority of the questions on the exam or has the distribuiton changed?

EJBs were in scope although not an emphasis. And they were at a high level. Like which EJB type do you use if you care about scalability. A big emphasis was scenario questions like in the book.


Thanks again, this information is very valuable. I think most people don't know this and think that the only changes are ejb3 and the name of the exam.

But thanks to everyone's contributions to this thread, it seems like there are major changes in content. This would be very useful and should be included in the FAQ section of the exam, IMHO.

Cheers.
 
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