Wow. I'm speechless. This is one of the things that makes the Spring cert a fringe cert. That you have to take a $3K course. And three of the four classes aren't even relevant. I'm glad I took the cert this year.
I agree. Looks like Oracle wants to make more money from this certification. But with this coming in place, i doubt many people will go for this as this is getting expensive and people might look for some other ones.
Personally, I am disappointed with this move. I am glad i cleared this last year.
Matthew Brown wrote:Shame. I was thinking of taking this one, but this rules it right out. It might be different if I could get work to pay for the course, but they've got other priorities at the moment.
Matthew, if you pass SCEA before August 1st, you don't need to take a training. It's doable in 5 months.
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I think you only have to do one course after the 1st August 2011, so something like $2250, not $10,000!!!
An interesting question is what happens if you submit before the 1st August and find out after the 1st August that you fail. Do you (A) have to do a course (B) don't have to do a course.
If the answer is (B). Then anyone thinking of doing this cert, it would make sense to get Part 1 passed asap, then submit any form of the assignment (Part 2) and do the associated exam (Part 3) before the 1st of August. Then if you fail, all you will have to do is pay for the repeat submission, rather than $2250 for a course if you start after 1st August
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As Sean noted, you only have to take one course. The thing is three of the courses are too basic for someone about to take an architecture exam. The remaining course is 3K. Plus the loss of wages for not working a week.
It will be a race against the clock for me.
I strongly prefer self-study. Without the ability to learn by self-study, one can't be a good developer or even an architect. There will always be new techniques to know, before any course is available.
By passing an exam, I can show that I know the subject right.
Would it still remain an option to pass the exams (part I, II en III), without doing any course? (even after august)
This would allow me to tell anyone that I passed the required exams. Without having a certificate, but with some documents that state that I passed the exams.
I don't like this. Just got the approvement to do this certification track. Now I have to tell that things changed, which effects reliabilty.
SCEA/OCMJEA part I
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Since the OCMJD forum has a thread with very similar discussion, I'm locking this thread and ask you to continue in there. As people find things out about the rules, it would be helpful to everyone to not be discussing in two places.