Campbell Ritchie wrote:It's probably a good idea to talk to your employer before you get unhappy enough to want to leave.
Jan de Boer wrote:You have not got a new job yet, and you can endanger your present position by saying you want to leave.
No more Blub for me, thank you, Vicar.
chris webster wrote:
PS: Check the small print in your contract, as some companies will expect you to repay the cost of training or relocation expenses etc if you quit too soon!
Where are you working? Not in most of Europe, they can't. They know they would be liable for damages for unfair dismissal.Jan de Boer wrote: . . . if I say I am looking for another job, . . .. they can say, well if you feel like that, your contract is terminated . . .
Campbell Ritchie wrote:
Where are you working? Not in most of Europe, they can't. They know they would be liable for damages for unfair dismissal.Jan de Boer wrote: . . . if I say I am looking for another job, . . .. they can say, well if you feel like that, your contract is terminated . . .
Jan de Boer wrote: The thing is, companies can afford to pay expensive lawyers, you cannot. So even, if you are right, for that you are always in the worse position. For the latter I have bought a sort of juridical insurance, that pays for my lawyer in such conflicts, yes after negative experiences. And no, I don't trust them, sorry.
No more Blub for me, thank you, Vicar.
chris webster wrote: Finally, it sounds like you neither like nor trust your current employer (no doubt with good reason) so maybe you really should just find another job and get out of there!
Jan de Boer wrote:Nee, it more general. I don't like all employers. Or at least I am aware that employees and employers have some common but also some conflicting interests. I don't (dis)like my present employer more then I (dis)liked my previous ones.
No more Blub for me, thank you, Vicar.
Did I really say that? I don't think I meant it that way. I agree there are lots of employers who hire at short notice, but they usually advertise the posts as short duration, so both parties know where they stand before they start.chris webster wrote:. . . As Campbell says, many businesses these days are quite happy to hire and fire workers at short notice and don't give a damn about how you feel about it, . . .
But they are still expensive. They know £50000 spent fighting a single dismissal case means one senior person less for twelve months, or no bonus for the entire management team. So employers prefer not to litigate. Least of all if the defendant can obtain legal aid, because then there is no prospect of getting costs back.Jan de Boer wrote:The thing is, companies can afford to pay expensive lawyers, you cannot.
Campbell Ritchie wrote:Did I really say that? I don't think I meant it that way. I agree there are lots of employers who hire at short notice, but they usually advertise the posts as short duration, so both parties know where they stand before they start.
Yes, there are some employers where the employees are all unhappy. That is usually because of incompetence rather than malice.
No more Blub for me, thank you, Vicar.
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