aspose file tools*
The moose likes Meaningless Drivel and the fly likes What do you call the zeros? Big Moose Saloon
  Search | Java FAQ | Recent Topics | Flagged Topics | Hot Topics | Zero Replies
Register / Login
JavaRanch » Java Forums » Other » Meaningless Drivel
Bookmark "What do you call the zeros?" Watch "What do you call the zeros?" New topic
Author

What do you call the zeros?

David O'Meara
Rancher

Joined: Mar 06, 2001
Posts: 13459

From here
that web site wrote:it’s all just ones and zeros (each one is called a bit)

If the ones are called bits, what are the zeros called?
Paul Clapham
Bartender

Joined: Oct 14, 2005
Posts: 18541
    
    8

They are called bits as well. (Each one of the 1's and 0's is called a bit. In other words each one of the 0's is called a bit and each one of the 1's is called a bit.)

David O'Meara
Rancher

Joined: Mar 06, 2001
Posts: 13459

that's not sexy. If you expect the masses to pick it up, you'll need to introduce 'sex' into it.
Not actual sex, preferably something metaphorical.
Like this entire thread
marc weber
Sheriff

Joined: Aug 31, 2004
Posts: 11343

A bit less.


"We're kind of on the level of crossword puzzle writers... And no one ever goes to them and gives them an award." ~Joe Strummer
sscce.org
David O'Meara
Rancher

Joined: Mar 06, 2001
Posts: 13459

I was thinking 'a bit on the side' but that would be a '-'
Bear Bibeault
Author and ninkuma
Marshal

Joined: Jan 10, 2002
Posts: 60997
    
  65

I'm still trying to figure out how to get 25 out of two bits.


[Asking smart questions] [Bear's FrontMan] [About Bear] [Books by Bear]
Maneesh Godbole
Saloon Keeper

Joined: Jul 26, 2007
Posts: 10255
    
    8

David O'Meara wrote:From here
that web site wrote:it’s all just ones and zeros (each one is called a bit)

If the ones are called bits, what are the zeros called?

Titbit

[How to ask questions] [Donate a pint, save a life!] [Onff-turn it on!]
marc weber
Sheriff

Joined: Aug 31, 2004
Posts: 11343

David O'Meara wrote:...what are the zeros called?

You mean Blickensderfers?
Paul Clapham
Bartender

Joined: Oct 14, 2005
Posts: 18541
    
    8

Well, when I were a lad, we much preferred to use zeros rather than ones, because the more ones you used the longer it took to punch the cards. We used to optimize our programs by using as few ones as possible.
marc weber
Sheriff

Joined: Aug 31, 2004
Posts: 11343

Paul Clapham wrote:Well, when I were a lad, we much preferred to use zeros rather than ones...

When I was a lad, we didn't even have ones. We used lowercase "L's".
Bear Bibeault
Author and ninkuma
Marshal

Joined: Jan 10, 2002
Posts: 60997
    
  65

Oh yeah, well when I started we didn't have any of them fancy-smanshy 1's or even l's. We had to use all zeroes. The big advantage was that computers didn't even need to be plugged in.
Pat Farrell
Rancher

Joined: Aug 11, 2007
Posts: 4646
    
    5

Bear Bibeault wrote:Oh yeah, well when I started we didn't have any of them fancy-smanshy 1's or even l's. ... The big advantage was that computers didn't even need to be plugged in.

You are not THAT old. If you were, you would know that computers were nearly all women.

Are you guys talking about normal card punches of letters and digits? Or binary cards? WIth normal, the card had holes roughly representing a value, with a hole in the zero row, it was a character zero. if in the one hole, a character 1. Binary cards were simply 11 or 12 binary values punched in each column.

Real men could read binary cards, just as later they could read punched paper tape.
Bear Bibeault
Author and ninkuma
Marshal

Joined: Jan 10, 2002
Posts: 60997
    
  65

There was no cry of anguish quite like that of someone dropping their box of punch cards!
 
I agree. Here's the link: http://aspose.com/file-tools
 
subject: What do you call the zeros?