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Switching from PHP-MySQL to J2EE-Oracle developer

Abhishekkumar Iitk

Joined: Apr 16, 2011
Posts: 3

Hi, I joined javaranch today because I freed from the tag of PHP developer and I am on the path of becoming Java developer.

I want to know from fellow java-ranchians that have I taken correct decision to leave PHP and enter JAVA field?

Here is a short story of my career:
1. Wanted to become Java developer, so joined a startup of my seniors of my college.
2. Started working in Java for 1 month, but a big PHP project came up and I was put into it. (Java stopped).
3. Three years fully dedicated and learned+worked in PHP, MySQL, HTML, CSS, Javascript, AJAX, Google Maps API, Joomla, Moodle, Codeignitor.
4. Spent my entire brain energy on learning and executing, managing projects.
5. What I got paid? GroundNuts. (i mean very low)
6. Tried switching to other PHP companies they denied salary above 5 lakhs p.a.
7. Learned that PHP companies are so small-scale companie that neither they get million-dollar projects, nor they can pay high salary.
8. I got mad that I wasted my 3 years of precious lifetime burning my braincells for low-paid technology.
9. And guys having lesser knowledge, lesser qualification earning 8-10 lakhs per annum just in 2 years, simply by working in JAVA technologies.
10. So I decided to leave PHP and switch to JAVA (What is the use of making a career in PHP if it cant give me money?)

Currently I am learning Oracle + Java + J2EE + EJB from a reputed training institute NIIT and I plan to get certifications on SCJP, SCWCD and SCBCD and then enter into a new job.

Because no company will entertain an ex-PHP developer to work as a fresher JAVA developer without any strong knowledge. I am certifying myself to prove that I indeed have knowledge.

What's your opinion java-ranchers?
Rahul Sudip Bose
Ranch Hand

Joined: Jan 21, 2011
Posts: 637

Welcome to the ranch ! You have a lot of qualifications which i believe , will work to your advantage.
I am intrigued by your experience.
You are suggesting that PHP and MySQL are not used much in the industry. What makes you think so ?

Abhishekkumar Iitk wrote:
And guys having lesser knowledge, lesser qualification earning 8-10 lakhs per annum just in 2 years, simply by working in JAVA technologies.

What do you mean by lesser qualification ? Lesser than what ? Are they people with , say just an SCJP and maybe a SCWCD etc. ?

good luck for your future.

PS :

Abhishekkumar Iitk wrote:
Currently I am learning Oracle + Java + J2EE + EJB from a reputed training institute NIIT and ...

Just out of curiosity, how many days ago did you start your course at NIIT.

SCJP 6. Learning more now.
Jesus Angeles
Ranch Hand

Joined: Feb 26, 2005
Posts: 2068
You seem to have figured it out already.

Good Luck!

The 'first' job is the hardest to get. It is obviously because employers want proven skills (experience).

I also went on the same route, but much harder. I was a procedural (non-object-oriented) developer, and dont even know what is html/css/javascript is, when I decided to move to j2ee. I got lucky that the procedural system I was handling, needed an interface with the j2ee side; and so I was assigned on the whole integrated system. My employer took the risk, knowing that they have trusted me on my procedural skills, and that I have all j2ee certifications (except j2me and scjd).
Rahul Sudip Bose
Ranch Hand

Joined: Jan 21, 2011
Posts: 637

Although i am not a fan of coaching classes, i suggest that you can join a coaching class as an instructor while you prepare for these exams. A person with your skills and experience would be a valuable asset to any coaching class (besides being a relief for students who are frustrated by the "poor" quality of teachers in classes ).
Alternatively, you may consider working as a freelancer on the internet - there are websites for that (google it). If I was as qualified as you, i would be doing that while switching over to java.

just my two cents (i learned this here ! )

manish gour

Joined: Dec 25, 2013
Posts: 1
Hi Abhishekkumar Iitk,

I think we are on the same track, I have exactly same condition, an I think the way you have described the problem very efficiently and in very depth. I would like to know how your progress is going on and how you are doing with your AIM. it will be helpful for me to decide options which you oped because I am also thing about to do OCPJP and taking the same track as you have preferred.

Please suggest Abhishekkumar, I am waiting for your response.

Thanks in advance.
K. Tsang

Joined: Sep 13, 2007
Posts: 3130

Hello there

I too was once in your position few years back, wanting to get into Java and all. My first job out of college isn't even web/programming but more legacy systems AS/400 and support for like 3 years. So when I got out I gone back to programming to start afresh to reconnect the world doing PHP. Did that for about a year and learn Java at the same time.

Then did JP cert and half year later JD cert. Given gotten all that, I still haven't got a truly java job at that time. After my PHP job, got into business intelligence and data warehousing which did somewhat enable me to use some java for a significant project. Now I'm doing another java project.

As for getting cert, the key to passing is learning through doing. So code to reinforce the concepts. Good luck.

K. Tsang JavaRanch SCJP5 SCJD OCPJP7 OCPWCD5 OCPBCD5 OCPWSD5 OCMJEA5 part 1 part 2/3
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