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Confused by Oracle - Where is the IDE?

Sterling Crapser
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My company uses BEA Workspace Studio for development and has just updated to 11G. I'm currently a PowerBuilder developer making the switch to Java. Now that Oracle has bought BEA, it is quite confusing to find which product to download so I can become familiar with the development environment.

My workstation at the office has BEA Workspace Studio 1.1 installed. I would like to get a copy of the software to install on my workstation at home to practice and learn.

Can anyone here explain what I need, where to find it, and what prerequisites there are?

I'm assuming I need the Java SDK installed. Beyond that I'm not sure what I need to do. Finding the correct software on the Oracle website is daunting. I'm hoping to have a self-contained development environment to play around in. But not knowing all that is involved makes it difficult. At my company I will be developing/supporting projects that talk to an Oracle database, retrieve data from OMNI mainframe, working with XML, XSL, writing web services, web pages, and other miscellaneous stuff. I'm not expecting to mirror everything but would like to at least be able to interact with a database and web server.

Is this an unusual idea or do most other developers set something like this up for learning purposes if they wish?

I thought I would add that the Oracle website doesn't seem to be very supportive of WebLogic. I mean they bought BEA but trying to navigate on their website for BEA based software is almost non-existent!

Thanks
Joe Ess
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Workspace Studio is the open-source IDE Eclipse with some Weblogic-specific widgets installed. The only time I've encountered it (I prefer the vanilla Eclipse IDE) was as an option in the Weblogic Server install. I believe the same functionality is available separately as the Oracle Enterprise Pack for Eclipse
You don't need to install an SDK as Weblogic installs one.
Oracle's web site is confusing for any product. I just got off the phone with one of their reps and they indicated that Oracle is going to get rid of Oracle Internet Application Server and migrate those users to Weblogic, so it sounds like they are committed to it.


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Sterling Crapser
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Joe Ess wrote:Workspace Studio is the open-source IDE Eclipse with some Weblogic-specific widgets installed. The only time I've encountered it (I prefer the vanilla Eclipse IDE) was as an option in the Weblogic Server install. I believe the same functionality is available separately as the Oracle Enterprise Pack for Eclipse
You don't need to install an SDK as Weblogic installs one.
Oracle's web site is confusing for any product. I just got off the phone with one of their reps and they indicated that Oracle is going to get rid of Oracle Internet Application Server and migrate those users to Weblogic, so it sounds like they are committed to it.


Thanks for your reply. I checked with some of the upper level development people at my company and it appears they are going to Web Server 11G and Vanilla Eclipse for the IDE. I still have BEA Workspace Studio 1.1 on my workstation but not for long. So I guess I'll be practicing with Eclipse after all. The version they are installing is 3.6.1.

My next task is to become familiar with the differences in Eclipse (Classic Eclipse, Eclipse for Java EE Developers, etc.). I'm sure they just have more or less features in each package. I'm also interested in the Spring Framework. Coming from PowerBuilder is forcing me to look at objects more from a coding perspective than I have had to up till now. But one step at a time.
 
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