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New Google chromebook

Arun Kumar
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http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9216621/Google_Chrome_notebooks_due_in_June_from_Acer_Samsung

Just another OS or ???
David O'Meara
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'The browser is the computer '
You can download nightly builds of chrome os to run in a VM. The problem I had is that it if you use your Google account, it pushes all changes from the OS to other instances of the chrome browser. Eg adding a theme to the OS was immediately reflected in my computer browser which was not expected or desired.
Pat Farrell
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Arun Kumar wrote:Just another OS or ???

No, its really the un-OS. No OS needed. This is not a new idea, it goes back to Larry Ellison's thin computing ideas of the 90s which were based on timesharing of the 70s.

Something like 99% of computer users do not care at all about the OS. They are computer users. They want to use the computer to do something other than fiddling with the OS. What they usually do is surf the web, do email, and play music and video. They don't need no steenking OS. They don't want it, they don't care.

The idea is right, it was right when Larry spoke of it a decade ago. What is not clear to me whether this is the right business deal to make it take off. It looks too expensive to me, but I could be wrong.
Jesper de Jong
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The idea of the Chromebook is that you store everything online in your Google account - there is no local storage (harddisk or similar) that you can use and no applications installed on the computer.

They'll also be available here in the Netherlands from June 15, but our biggest national telecom company (KPN) looks like it's trying hard to prevent people from buying it because they're asking an outrageous price for the mobile data contract: € 10 for only 62,5 MB per month, or € 20 for 200 MB. If you do everything online, you'll have spent your € 10 really quickly. € 20 per 200 MB, that's € 100 per GB.


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Saurabh Pillai
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Wi-fi?
David O'Meara
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because it's a good idea.
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Hussein Baghdadi
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And Google get access to all my personal stuff and all my data belong to them? no thanks.
Mark Spritzler
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Depending on the price point, and even though I wouldn't need it. I would buy one of these.

Why? Because I could finally possibly see my idea I had back in 1995 made in reality. Yes, I had an idea of the browser is the OS back then, but of course, while I had an idea about it, I wasn't in any ability or position to actually create such a thing, but I know at some point someone else would.

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Jesper de Jong
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Mark, was your idea something like Sun's failed Network Computer?
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Jesper de Jong wrote:Mark, was your idea something like Sun's failed Network Computer?

Back then, it was Oracle's Network Computer. aka Thin Computer. And actually, while Sun was eaten by the evil Oracle machine, I don't think the Thin Computer was ever popular at Sun. Sun sold powerful computers.
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Jesper de Jong wrote:Mark, was your idea something like Sun's failed Network Computer?


No actually. It was just the OS was a bunch of simple classes and a parser. When you typed in a URL it would download rows of data that had the look of the UI and also any action code. Then the OS would take the data and quickly generate a program that would run and you had your Rich UI application. The first idea was similar to how Foxpro created forms. When you drew the form in the UI builder, it really just created a database table for each element, and code was put into Memo/Clob like fields. Then after you built the UI in Foxpro you would run genscrn on it, and it would convert the data into a .prg file which was then run. So it was a very similar approach.

So the browser was the OS, and your URL would bring down just enough information to draw the UI. You would only save your documents to the local hard drive only.

Mark
Rahul Sudip Bose
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What could be the advantage(s) of such an OS ? Are they bigger than this disadvantage - loss of data/privacy due to google ? Any good links that address such concerns ?



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