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why google chrome sucks

paul wheaton
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This is my third attempt to try chrome.

And the things that sucked the first two times, still suck.

1) there are some annoying web sites I use all day every day that constantly ask for a password. Firefox could remember them, chrome seems unaware that those are password fields. So with chrome, I need to type in the full password every time. Firefox would reload the field for me.

2) About 1 time in 20 I will click on something and nothing happens. It's as if I didn't click. In other words, chrome loses clicks.

3) Chrome seems to get stuck more often. Maybe the page rendering is faster, but it just seems like firefox was able to successfully get the pages more often.


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paul wheaton
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4) Firefox is better at figuring out where I want to go based on stuff that I type in the URL bar.
Pat Farrell
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No one is requiring you to use Chrome. If you don't like it, don't use it. Or send feedback to the Chrome team at Google.

I do run into pages that Chrome does not properly display, but for perhaps 98% of my Internet usage, I use Chrome. For the rest, I use Firefox. This is on a new MacBook Pro, where you'd expect me to use Safari, but I don't like Safari.

I love Chrome for a reason that is orthogonal to details like how it displays all pages: It brought back competition to the browser market. Ten years ago, there was one browser, IE, and it sucked. Netscape was dead. Firefox brought back competition, but they had become too fat, dumb, and happy from their success in the mid-2000's. Not only was the Mozilla sponsor organization fat and lazy, but the Firefox code was subject to huge amounts of code bloat and feature creep.

Chrome brought in speed, and woke up both Microsoft and Mozilla. That makes me very happy.
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My biggest issue with Chrome is that it is missing the NoScript plugin that is available on Firefox. I am appalled at the amount of c**p that appears on some web sites when I view them with Chrome (or IE for that matter), none of which shows up in Firefox simply because scripts are not running. And for the stuff I do want to see, I can selectively enable scripts. (Yes, I know about AdBlock and it have it installed in Chrome and it did help some but there is a lot of stuff that comes in via scripts.)

BTW, I am using Chrome right now.


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paul wheaton
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5) If I close a window with more than one tab open, I like that firefox says "are you sure?"
Matthew Brown
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paul wheaton wrote:5) If I close a window with more than one tab open, I like that firefox says "are you sure?"


And I like that it allows you to turn that off .
Maneesh Godbole
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Preferences->Personal Stuff->Passwords->Offer to save passwords
Preferences->Under the hood->Privacy->Content Settings->Javascript->Allow all sites to run JavaScript


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Maneesh Godbole wrote:Preferences->Under the hood->Privacy->Content Settings->Javascript->Allow all sites to run JavaScript

But I don't want to turn off all JavaScript, and I don't want to turn it off for all sites. I want to selectively decide which sites are allowed to run which JavaScript. For example, I want to allow my banking web site to run all of its scripts, but I don't want gocomics to run any of its scripts, while on the zdnet site I want it to run the scripts that supply content but not the boatload of scripts that supply adds nor do I want it run run google analytics (google knows enough about me without it finding out more). And I want the browser to remember which scripts I enabled and disabled for each site, and I want it to provide an easy means to change those settings. That is the functionality that NoScript provides.

I tend to use Chrome for sites where I don't mind all of the scripts running, but avoid Chrome for all other sites. And I use IE only for sites that won't work without it (some sites at work), though for non-work sites I avoid them if they only work with IE.
paul wheaton
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Preferences->Personal Stuff->Passwords->Offer to save passwords


Yup, I have that turned on. And for most stuff it works. And for the one thing that i go to ten times a day, it doesn't do that. But firefox does.

Item #2 is really getting annoying.



David O'Meara
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I have to say that since moving to Chrome I have loved it, but yes I have noticed that there is one site (company's google apps page) that won't prompt or remember the password, and some sites that are very slow to fail.
paul wheaton
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2) I just had to click on a chrome menu item SIX times before it would do it.

paul wheaton
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paul wheaton wrote:2) I just had to click on a chrome menu item SIX times before it would do it.



2) NINE times. I right clicked to open a link in a new tab. I clicked on "open link in a new tab" nine times before it finally did it.

paul wheaton
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6) When trying to go to a page and things don't work out, chrome seems less likely to be able to try again properly. In other words, firefox seems better able to reload or try again. Sometimes, with chrome, if it didn't work out the first time, then you're done. Reload isn't an option.

paul wheaton
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2) Several times I had to click 12 times until it registered the click. And just now, I had to click 15 times in a row before it went.

Does anybody else experience this?

paul wheaton
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2) 30 - no joke. I right click to open in a new tab. I then click on the menu 30 times before it actually opens it in a new tab.
Gregg Bolinger
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I've never experienced any of the problems you have mentioned in the entire thread. Chrome works great for me. I had hopes for Firefox4 but it is still slower than Chrome. I, too, am not fond of Safari. It feels as slow as Firefox to me. Chrome is my every day all day browser. I use FF for development because of Firebug. Chrome has some nice built in debugging tools as well, but I can't get used to them.

Clicking things are no problem
Chrome has never got "stuck"
Remembering passwords were no problem, when I used it. But note that I started using 1Password a few months ago and it has a plugin for Chrome (among all the other browsers) so I don't let the browser save my password anymore.

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paul wheaton
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I have a new computer coming. Maybe when I run chrome on the new computer, these problems will go away. Although i seem to remember having the same problems with chrome when using it in the past.
paul wheaton
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7) My whole computer (quad core i5 with 8 gigs of memory) is crawling. The mouse seems to follow a few inches behind me. Playing videos stutters. I shut down chrome and everything is super fast. I fire chrome back up again and everything is super slow and dysfunctional. I currently have about 30 chrome windows open. With an average of about two tabs each. I was able to get to about about 120 windows with firefox.




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If you have virus protection running, try turning it off and see what happens.
paul wheaton
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Gregg Bolinger wrote:If you have virus protection running, try turning it off and see what happens.


Okay.

Currently running MSE. There is an option for "turn on real-time protection". I unchecked that box and saved changes, which set all sorts of stuff to red. Everything was the same.


Gregg Bolinger
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Well, looks like you're really pushing browser usage to the limit. Currently, I have 1 window and 5 tabs. I just don't use my browser as my TODO list. If Firefox works better for you, I'd say just stick with that. Maybe you could provide some feedback to the Chrome folks so they can improve it?

I have some very ignorant recollection of Windows not really multitasking quite as well as *nix based systems due to how Threads were implemented. But I can't verify that in any way.
Mohamed Sanaulla
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I had my own share of bad experiences with Chrome. So stuck to Firefox. Very(Very) rarely do I use chrome.


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Gregg Bolinger
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Mohamed Sanaulla wrote:I had my own share of bad experiences with Chrome. So stuck to Firefox. Very(Very) rarely do I use chrome.


What operating system?
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Gregg Bolinger wrote:
Mohamed Sanaulla wrote:I had my own share of bad experiences with Chrome. So stuck to Firefox. Very(Very) rarely do I use chrome.


What operating system?


on Windows. When I leave the browser without using for sometime- and when I try to use it again- It becomes kind of sluggish while minimizing and restoring.
Gregg Bolinger
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Mohamed Sanaulla wrote:
Gregg Bolinger wrote:
Mohamed Sanaulla wrote:I had my own share of bad experiences with Chrome. So stuck to Firefox. Very(Very) rarely do I use chrome.


What operating system?


on Windows. When I leave the browser without using for sometime- and when I try to use it again- It becomes kind of sluggish while minimizing and restoring.


Ok, just seeing if there is some sort of pattern here. I'm curious if anyone has Chrome issues on non-Windows OS's?
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Gregg Bolinger wrote:Ok, just seeing if there is some sort of pattern here. I'm curious if anyone has Chrome issues on non-Windows OS's?

Chrome is the default browser on all of my Ubuntu and Fedora machines (some physical, most are VMs though) and it has never given me any problems.
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No Chrome issues on OS X -- but I rarely have more than 4 windows open at a time.


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paul wheaton wrote:I currently have about 30 chrome windows open. With an average of about two tabs each. I was able to get to about about 120 windows with firefox.

Have you tried a Firefox extension like "Read it later"? It's less intrusive than setting a bookmark, and makes remembering pages a snap.


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