yeah i did think about ditching the panels and just labeling up the listed items but i found it was cleaner to package everything up in its individual panel then add all the panels to the list then access those panles from a master array and sub array...
it all works fine it was a question really to find out if it was possible to access these labels from within panels which i know now you cant so in future projects i will know to think of another way to display the items...
thanks for you guys help i have learnt so much here already as there are people that do reply to post
hopefully in time maybe i can help people out once i get enough practise in....