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Material to prepare to OCJP is the same as SCJP?

Nick Irving
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Joined: May 29, 2011
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Hello to everyone,
I would like to know if these material is still ok for OCJP exam or there are better for it:

- Whizlabs SCJP 6.0 Self Study Training
- Whizlabs SCJP 6.0 Exam Simulator
- SCJP Sun Certified Programmer for Java 6 Exam 310-065
- OCP Java SE 6 Programmer Practice Exams (Exam 310-065)
- A Programmer's Guide to Java SCJP Certification: A Comprehensive Primer (3rd Edition)

And you think that they are all necessary?

Thank you very much





Mohamed Sanaulla
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I dont know about the last one- But rest are all still valid. OCPJP is the new name of the SCJP exam.

I would suggest you to refer the book- SCJP guide by Kathy Seirra and Bert Bates and also the OCP Java SE 6 Programmer Practice Exams. Look at the ScjpFaq for more details.
Jim Jonides
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I would also recommend the enthuware and Examlab simulators, they helped me a great deal in the last few month before I took my exam.


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karthik kbk
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Joined: May 19, 2012
Posts: 1
Hi,
I am looking forward to take up OCPJP exam, can any one please give me few tips or information for the exam preparation like,
Any links to go thru,
books for preparation,
any other study material.
new topics that is included in OCPJP exam.

Thanks & Regards
KBK
saloni jhanwar
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karthik kbk wrote:Hi,
I am looking forward to take up OCPJP exam, can any one please give me few tips or information for the exam preparation like,
Any links to go thru,
books for preparation,
any other study material.
new topics that is included in OCPJP exam.

Thanks & Regards
KBK


see scjp/ocjp faqs


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Jeanne Boyarsky
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Nick,
All the "yes" answers you are getting presume you are taking the Java 6 version of the test. If that's not the case, speak up as the answer is considerably different.


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Paul Gildea
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Jeanne Boyarsky wrote:Nick,
All the "yes" answers you are getting presume you are taking the Java 6 version of the test. If that's not the case, speak up as the answer is considerably different.


Hello I have been studying for version 6 of the exam for quite a while now and see that there is a version 7. I see that with this version you have to pass an exam before you can do it. Is there any point changing to 7 or do you think it would be best to jsut finsish 6 and upgrade to 7 in the future if I feel the need to?


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saloni jhanwar
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Paul Gildea wrote:
Jeanne Boyarsky wrote:Nick,
All the "yes" answers you are getting presume you are taking the Java 6 version of the test. If that's not the case, speak up as the answer is considerably different.


Hello I have been studying for version 6 of the exam for quite a while now and see that there is a version 7. I see that with this version you have to pass an exam before you can do it. Is there any point changing to 7 or do you think it would be best to jsut finsish 6 and upgrade to 7 in the future if I feel the need to?


Without OCA 7 or any prior old versions of scjp don't think about OCJP 7.
Paul Gildea
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Thanks, I am nearly finished K&B's book for scjp 6.
Do you think i should just do the ocpjp 6 exam over the OCA 7 Exam?


Is an upgrade exam from ocpjp 6 -> ocpjp 7 the same as the exam you would do if you did the OCA 7 then the OCPJP 7? Ie is upgrade OCPJP 7 the same as the full exam OCPJP 7?

Thanks.
saloni jhanwar
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Paul Gildea wrote:Thanks, I am nearly finished K&B's book for scjp 6.
Do you think i should just do the ocpjp 6 exam over the OCA 7 Exam?


Is an upgrade exam from ocpjp 6 -> ocpjp 7 the same as the exam you would do if you did the OCA 7 then the OCPJP 7? Ie is upgrade OCPJP 7 the same as the full exam OCPJP 7?

Thanks.


for OCA see this forum.

You can directly upgrade OCJP 6 to OCJP 7 without need of OCA.
Paul Gildea
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Posts: 18
Thank you, I will read that forum also.

If you had to choose one exam OCA 7 or OCPJP 6 which would you do? Which would look nicer on a cv or teach you more?
saloni jhanwar
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Paul Gildea wrote:Thank you, I will read that forum also.

If you had to choose one exam OCA 7 or OCPJP 6 which would you do? Which would look nicer on a cv or teach you more?


Think like OCA is level 1 of video game (difficulty level- easy) and OCJP 6 is level 2(difficulty level-medium). I'll go with OCJP 6.
Paul Gildea
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Haha nice answer, I will go with OCJP 6 so!
Jeanne Boyarsky
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OCPJP will definitely teach your anymore. The choices are really:
1) OCPJP 6
2) OCPJP 6 + Java 7 upgrade
3) OCAJP 7 + OCPJP 7

In the long run #3 will be the only option. At this time, I think #1 or #2 are better as they give you a SCJP level certification sooner. (If you look at my sig, you'll notice I went with #3. But that's because my primary goal wasn't too get certified.)
Paul Gildea
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I graduated from my masters 1.5 years ago and have not worked since, I went travelling. Since I have never worked I will be looking for a graduate role. I think getting the ocjp 6 now would help, and help get me back in touch with programming. I have a big gap on my CV with me doing 'nothing' for the last 1.5 years which I believe looks bad. Thanks for the info, sounds like I will learn more by going with 1/2. ocpjp 6 will help me better with 7 if I wish to upgrade also.

What was your primary goal? To learn?

Jeanne Boyarsky
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Paul Gildea wrote:What was your primary goal? To learn?

A few things. The main one was actually JDBC being on the exam got my attention. It made the exam feel less theoretical to me which motivated me to do it. Which ruled out option 1. Since I needed to take two exams, I preferred to experience the "new style." But I've been a Java developer for 10 years and am not job hunting. So the fact that I don't get certified for months even if I pass is ok. (the OCPJP is in beta which makes for a large delay in scoring.)

I actually didn't learn that much since I've read the cert books before. It was more of an experience.
 
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