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Nakul P. Patel
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Joined: May 31, 2011
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Hi,

I am a student who is just about to finish graduation in B.E. C.E. and I am looking forward to Oracle certification for Java.

I am having dilemma about the certification that is it good enough to spend few hundred dollars and take the certification from oracle. And does that few hundred bucks worth enough to make you something different in line?

Another thing is that if, in the end, I decided to take certification, which should I go after first? OCPJP or OCJA?

I am hoping for a positive reply soon.

Thank you.
Joe Harry
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Certifications are definitely worth having but that does not mean that it would be enough to make you something different in line (I do not know what you really meant by this... making different in line?). If you are interested in pursuing a career in Java, then the best thing would be to go for the certification. Go for OCPJP.


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Arun Prasad Ramiya
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Joined: Nov 03, 2009
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Hi,

I recently checked Oracle's certification path. I need some confirmation. If I have to be certified as OCJP, is it necessary to first complete OCJA? With several years of java experience, is it possible to obtain OCPJWSD with a prior OCJP but with no OCJA certification?


Thanks,
Arun
Ashish S Yadav
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Joined: Apr 08, 2012
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Nakuli Patidar wrote:Hi,

I am a student who is just about to finish graduation in B.E. C.E. and I am looking forward to Oracle certification for Java.

I am having dilemma about the certification that is it good enough to spend few hundred dollars and take the certification from oracle. And does that few hundred bucks worth enough to make you something different in line?

Another thing is that if, in the end, I decided to take certification, which should I go after first? OCPJP or OCJA?

I am hoping for a positive reply soon.

Thank you.


Go for OCPJP, but dont expect to become a rockstar developer after it. I thought I would . Actually, the SCJP/OCJP does not cover enough material to be of use in industry level projects. It does give you some knowledge though. You have to go way beyond the scjp to be marketable. Are you in India? If yes, then judging the way most of our Indian colleges work, I am sure they would not have covered any useful material in your java class. And most companies know that. SCJP will certainly teach you way more than a college degree. So, from that pov, its good to have an SCJP on your resume. Makes it look more attractive. But it all boils down to how you answer interviews. Knowledge will come only from developing USEFUL code, and not toy code.
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arulk pillai
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I am having dilemma about the certification that is it good enough to spend few hundred dollars and take the certification from oracle. And does that few hundred bucks worth enough to make you something different in line?


Not really. It is not only few hundred dollars, but also the time you allocate to prepare yourself.

There are other less traveled avenues to stand out. The employers are more interested in experience than academic qualifications. self taught projects and open-source contributions on sought after technologies/frameworks are more beneficial.



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Ashish S Yadav
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arulk pillai wrote:
I am having dilemma about the certification that is it good enough to spend few hundred dollars and take the certification from oracle. And does that few hundred bucks worth enough to make you something different in line?


Not really. It is not only few hundred dollars, but also the time you allocate to prepare yourself.

There are other less traveled avenues to stand out. The employers are more interested in experience than academic qualifications. self taught projects and open-source contributions on sought after technologies/frameworks are more beneficial.




Exactly! Tests like SCJP are basically a way for companies to mint money off their technologies. Any test without a project is not very useful. Most people can learn rules/syntax. Few can (or care to) understand the logic/history behind those rules. And fewer have the intelligence and creativity to design and develop software properly. SCJP only checks if you fall in the first category and also the second category to a small extent. I have seen some folks who took the test and passed by (mostly) memorizing the rules and "tips n tricks". To see if you belong to the third category, develop your own code or for some company.
 
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