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JEE is Dead?

 
Arun Giridharan
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Most of the time ,i kept wondering about this .
 
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Yes
 
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No
 
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Maybe
 
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Bear Bibeault wrote:Maybe

Don't be so sure about that.
 
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Having read it, I'm wondering about it too. Not about the title, that's just for grabbing attention. If I could summarize I would say that the summary is "Java EE is making us do more things in configuration rather than programming, but I like programming, so I don't like that."
 
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Huh ??? Is this related to preparation for SCWCD ?
 
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Ulf Dittmer wrote:Yes...No


 
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Rahul Sudip Bose wrote:
Ulf Dittmer wrote:Yes...No




That's right.
 
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Lot of things were written off before, some really died out, but some went on to become hugely popular- So- Yes .. No .. Maybe
 
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Rahul Sudip Bose wrote:Huh ??? Is this related to preparation for SCWCD ?

 
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We all are going to die some day.
 
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And that day is going to be hastened if we eat too much of that pie which Bear posted.
 
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And that day is very near according to some big guy who took all the money at the end....

meanwhile, lets transfer all our money to Jesper
 
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Hey, good that you're remembering me!

Reading the article:
Article wrote:However, in some ways, I feel this misses the mark; all it does is reduce the amount of code you need to write. This is fine, but it's like telling a musician that you're going to simplify his life by reducing the time he needs to play his instrument. That may not be what the musician had in mind.

Instead, the musician wants to spend more time playing, and less time with other chores (i.e. booking practice time, studio time, mixing, and so on). It's just an analogy, but it does prove a point.

What a strange analogy. So, what he's saying here is: Java EE reduces the amount of code you need to write; you're simplifying the programmer's life with this, but that's not what the programmer had in mind? Really? So the programmer wants to write more code (just like the musician wants to play more), even if it is unnecessary? And he thinks that it's a good thing if you have to write more code to accomplish some task?

The title of the article is just to attract attention. He could just as well have used "Free naked ladies pictures!" as a title.

Don't believe in everything you read on the Internet.
 
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Robin John wrote: And that day is very near according to some big guy who took all the money at the end....

meanwhile, lets transfer all our money to Jesper

again Jesper...
If I were Jesper, i would do charity with these money. (to building a school or to open a hospital)
 
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Jesper de Jong wrote:Hey, good that you're remembering me!

Reading the article:
Article wrote:However, in some ways, I feel this misses the mark; all it does is reduce the amount of code you need to write. This is fine, but it's like telling a musician that you're going to simplify his life by reducing the time he needs to play his instrument. That may not be what the musician had in mind.

Instead, the musician wants to spend more time playing, and less time with other chores (i.e. booking practice time, studio time, mixing, and so on). It's just an analogy, but it does prove a point.

What a strange analogy. So, what he's saying here is: Java EE reduces the amount of code you need to write; you're simplifying the programmer's life with this, but that's not what the programmer had in mind? Really? So the programmer wants to write more code (just like the musician wants to play more), even if it is unnecessary? And he thinks that it's a good thing if you have to write more code to accomplish some task?

The title of the article is just to attract attention. He could just as well have used "Free naked ladies pictures!" as a title.

Don't believe in everything you read on the Internet.


well, you don't get it.
 
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Paul Clapham wrote:And that day is going to be hastened if we eat too much of that pie which Bear posted.


Maybe not. These will work :


:D
 
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Arun Giridharan wrote:well, you don't get it.

Or you don't. Who knows whether the author has any clue of what he writes about, or what kind of agenda drove this article?
 
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The title of the article is just to attract attention. He could just as well have used "Free naked ladies pictures!" as a title.


This is going to be the title of my next presentation to the team.
 
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Jesper de Jong wrote:The title of the article is just to attract attention. He could just as well have used "Free naked ladies pictures!" as a title.


http://www.coderanch.com/t/540317/md/Porn-Pic-View-before-thread
 
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Yes. It was Colonel Mustard in the Conservatory with the candlestick.
 
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I'd say rather that evidence points to the rope.
 
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Rizvan Asgarov wrote:If I were Jesper, i would do charity with these money. (to building a school or to open a hospital)

When the world ends, then charities also will not need the money!

Arun Giridharan wrote:well, you don't get it.

Maybe if would be a good idea if you explain it, if you think you get it!
 
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Why be wimps and say "JEE is dead"? that is so easy. Be an adult, say "Java is dead".

Clearly JEE is only dead in the future pluperfect tense/sense. There are lots of jobs and companies using it today, and there will be many jobs in it in five years. But I believe a case can be made that JEE is past middle age, its approaching the time when its future is not bright and its clear that it will die sometime. But then, Cobol and Fortran are still in use, so a dead language/tool can stay on life support a very long time.

For years I've been posting here that Java is dead, in the same sense. I claim that Java is also middle aged, and it will die, probably long before Fortran and Cobol. Java the language is still pretty cool, but the libraries, APIs, frameworks, etc are simply too complex, and have too steep of a learning curve to scale and be highly productive.
 
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Jesper de Jong wrote:

Arun Giridharan wrote:well, you don't get it.

Maybe if would be a good idea if you explain it, if you think you get it!


You won't get fun.
 
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Pat Farrell your absolutely correct .
 
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I disagree.

I wish to say that I have beautifull perspective on the thing. Somewhere at the begining of the 21st century I saw the documentary film "Step across the border" and I have decided never to touch computer again, I went on the Road, but when I got back... It's so full of stars...
 
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Uf. What am I doing. I don't have time... This was so accedental. I'm trying something with sax, regex, tralala, and I just got as an output http address of this forum to copy paste it in a browser and see if it's working. Bye people.
 
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Like this... hm
 
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This thread is turning out great; keep it up!
 
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I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the darkness at Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time - like tears in rain. Time to die.
 
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