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jamal elbaa
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hello,
I notice that you made ​​a comparison between C + + and java to simplify java to the readers. in my opinion java is no longer needed to this comparison because Java is more famous then C++
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So you are saying that because Java is "more famous" than C++ (a specious claim in itself), that comparisons are not valid? Really?


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Hussein Baghdadi
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Sorry but where is the question?
Jim Waldo
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Well, I tried to compare Java to something that most people think is most like it-- a C based, object-oriented programming language used for large systems. It isn't that one is more famous than the other, or more used (I find the notion of the fame of a programming language mildly disturbing, and if I was going to compare it to the most widely used I'd probably have to pick COBOL, and no good could come of that).


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jamal elbaa
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we are not always need to ask questions but also to criticize.

I find this way of learning Java is not longer used as most people learn it directly without going through C.

note: sory for my bad english
Jim Waldo
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jamal elbaa wrote:we are not always need to ask questions but also to criticize.

I find this way of learning Java is not longer used as most people learn it directly without going through C.

note: sory for my bad english


This may well be true; I'm an old guy so I forget that things have changed a lot :-). On the other hand, the book is really targeted to programmers with some experience, so I think it safe to assume that they have at least heard of C++, even if it is just in admonitions that if they aren't good, they will be forced to program in it.

But you make a good point, and I'll try to remember it in the future. Thanks.
jamal elbaa
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the book is surely good for programmers who have had a great time in C and C + +
Greg Reeder
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I notice that this thread is following more of a pattern of a debate, but I would just like to say that I am only just now starting to learn to program, and I really like seeing comparisons to other languages. I find that I am able to retain things better, when I dont just look at one language as if it is the 'God of Programing Capability' but rather look at a bunch of languages simultaneously and learn what handles best in a particular situation. I find Java a good language for many particular reasons, but that would not mean that I would not find C++ C# or some other .NET or non-.NET language better suited for another solution. I find these comparisons helpful, and better yet, neccesary for the education of a programer.
 
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