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Reviews on http://www.learnnowjava.com/

Stephen Tret
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Joined: Feb 03, 2011
Posts: 17
Hi, I got this link http://www.learnnowjava.com/ from a coderanch newsletter last week. I checked out the site and a couple of sample videos to learn J2EE. It looked good. I did have a question for them and I tried calling. Their 1-877 number wants me to email them, so I emailed them as well.

So far no response. Although I like the materials, I am not so sure if I want to give them my credit card details. If I can't find anybody to talk to now, I would hate to run after them to cancel my subscription a year later. Has anybody else dealt with these guys? Thanks for any info you can provide me with.
Ernest Friedman-Hill
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Joined: Jul 08, 2003
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Have you heard back yet?


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Stephen Tret
Greenhorn

Joined: Feb 03, 2011
Posts: 17
Yes, I did hear from them. Thank you. But I haven't heard any reviews from anywhere else.
Michael Dixon
Greenhorn

Joined: Jan 20, 2010
Posts: 8
I have subscribed to them and am going through the material. I share your concern about the giving them the credit card information and will take steps to ensure that my bank is notified that the subscription is only for 1 year.
Stephen Tret
Greenhorn

Joined: Feb 03, 2011
Posts: 17
Thanks. I will do the same thing with my bank as well. On a side note (if it helps anybody else looking for reviews on this site), I like the course and it is more than worth the money for me. I am very happy I got enrolled.
Kristjan Toots
Ranch Hand

Joined: Jun 03, 2011
Posts: 59

I like the course as well and it is still worth the amount of money I paid. But still, i feel that I got played, what I don't appreciate on sites such these.

I have seen the learnjavanow advertisement about 3 times in JavaRanch newsletter. Each time it says 99.99$ per year, hurry up, offer ends x/x/x.
Actually this offer does not end. This 99.99$ is the price they have had for past 4 months straight with exception ~45$ once.

Yes I know it's all about marketing.


Please correct my english.
Michael Dixon
Greenhorn

Joined: Jan 20, 2010
Posts: 8
I have been doing the courses, for 2 weeks now. They are very good. I have no regrets. www.jpassion.com is an alternative that is worth considering.
Stephen Tret
Greenhorn

Joined: Feb 03, 2011
Posts: 17
KristJan, I bought the course for $99 for a year and the very next day, it went down to $49. So I contacted them and they said they will give me an additional year free and I took it. My other option was to cancel my original subscription (which I can do within 10 days) and subcribe again for the $49 plan.

Hopefully if they continue to add J2EE materials, it would be well worth it.
Robby Robinson
Greenhorn

Joined: May 22, 2010
Posts: 6
iitry to join 2 times never got working passwords, to day join again when password did wor what you do, get a reset which returns the same darn password
Robby Robinson
Greenhorn

Joined: May 22, 2010
Posts: 6
well i join the 18th have not contected about me not being able to acess the contentI paid for stay way
Jay Orsaw
Ranch Hand

Joined: Jun 14, 2011
Posts: 356

Anyone have any more reviews? I'm thinking about purchasing this...
david colais
Greenhorn

Joined: Nov 15, 2010
Posts: 29
Hi Guys,

I took a look at the sample material on the site and its very good.
I was concerned about giving credit card info.
Can anyone verify whether its safe to give the credit card details as i can't contact the bank.
Jay Orsaw
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Joined: Jun 14, 2011
Posts: 356

david colais wrote:Hi Guys,

I took a look at the sample material on the site and its very good.
I was concerned about giving credit card info.
Can anyone verify whether its safe to give the credit card details as i can't contact the bank.


It seems like everyone is wondering this... Do they have paypal? I havent' really looked into it much, but they are interesting indeed! Would love to hear more about this, wish this was spoken about more.... Maybe it should be posted somewhere else?
david colais
Greenhorn

Joined: Nov 15, 2010
Posts: 29
@Jay Orsaw : No they dont have paypal.
This topic should be definitely posted somewhere else.
Where could this be posted?
Jay Orsaw
Ranch Hand

Joined: Jun 14, 2011
Posts: 356

david colais wrote:@Jay Orsaw : No they dont have paypal.
This topic should be definitely posted somewhere else.
Where could this be posted?


I kinda want to say the "Book section" but this isn't a book technically, there is no place for "e-books" or "online material..." Where are the Ranch officers when you need them? .
david colais
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Joined: Nov 15, 2010
Posts: 29
@Jay Orsaw : I just went for it and registered.
And it is a genuine service.
Hope this helps.
Jay Orsaw
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Joined: Jun 14, 2011
Posts: 356

david colais wrote:@Jay Orsaw : I just went for it and registered.
And it is a genuine service.
Hope this helps.


That's good! How do you like it? I'm really wanting to see if it's really helpful. They have a lot of topics!
david colais
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Joined: Nov 15, 2010
Posts: 29
@Jay Orsaw : Its really comprehensive covering all sections of technology.
Hope this helps.
Jay Orsaw
Ranch Hand

Joined: Jun 14, 2011
Posts: 356

david colais wrote:@Jay Orsaw : Its really comprehensive covering all sections of technology.
Hope this helps.


That's good! It seemed like they covered everything, have you been able to learn a lot of stuff you didn't previous know? I'm oging to buy it within the week.
C Halbe
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Joined: Jul 18, 2008
Posts: 20
Michael Dixon wrote:I have been doing the courses, for 2 weeks now. They are very good. I have no regrets. www.jpassion.com is an alternative that is worth considering.


Which one do you think is better between Jpassion.com and learnnowjava.com? Your review will help. I am thinking of registering for one of these two within a few days.
Doug Morand
Greenhorn

Joined: Jan 31, 2012
Posts: 19
I watched a couple sample videos and this looks pretty decent. Has anyone used this site recently? $99 doesn't seem too bad, but I would like to hear from someone if they thought the videos were worth while or not.
Kenn Cowling
Greenhorn

Joined: Mar 21, 2012
Posts: 8



See the bottom right of the above image: the company is an AppDev reseller. For what it's worth: a few years ago the company I worked for provided AppDev courses in ASP.NET. I went through the first dozen or so modules and thought they were very good. (I never put that training to use in a significant way, but that's a whole 'nother story).

Compare the course outlines from LearnNowJava and AppDev, it looks like the training is the same:
http://www.learnnowjava.com/Topics.aspx
http://www.appdev.com/promo.asp?page=WB00085

Obviously the LearnNowJava price is far lower. I believe the reason is found in the LearnNow FAQ: with LNJ you have to pay extra for features such as sample code and hands-on exercises, whereas paying the full price to AppDev gets you the entire package. That said: even though I had access to those extra features in the ASP.NET training, I rarely used them.

Overall: if my observations are sound, then I think the LearnJavaNow package is a very good deal, and I might well subscribe myself... after spending time at the Cattle Drive (I plan to begin this week!) I have no experience with the JPassion training.
Bob Lawson
Ranch Hand

Joined: Jul 20, 2010
Posts: 34
Questions about Learn Java Now (emailed them, waiting to hear back and will post response):

- Do any of the Java tutorials include developing in Eclipse?
- if I decide to keep the main $99 product, but do not want any or some of the additional tools, can I selectively get a refund for the tools I don't want?
- if I want to add additional tools in the future, how would I do that. Are the prices higher?
Pondurai Singh
Ranch Hand

Joined: Jun 27, 2011
Posts: 35
Hi, I am really like the course and i know it is more helpful for me


Software Developer, Oracle Java Certification Training Labs at EPractize Labs.
Rong Lei
Greenhorn

Joined: May 09, 2012
Posts: 2
I had subscribed as a user at http://www.learndevnow.com/ before.
And I knew learnnowjava by the email from learndevnow.com sending to me.
I think both websites are under the same vorganization.
I paid the fee of a full year and use credit card as payment. After a year since I subscribed as a user, my account didn't expired.
Few days later I received a email from them,then I found a payment statement of learndevnow.com in my credit card bill .
The videos of theirs are good, but I was using JAVA at that time, so I send a email to them and ask for a full refund.
Later I got a email from them and got the full refund. After few days the refund appear on my statement.

Below is the content in their email:

Hello,

All our subscriptions are auto renewing. When you purchased the original
subscription you agreed to an auto renewing charge in the subscription
agreement. We do not charge a credit card without the customer agreeing to
this in our "Terms of Agreement".

Your subscription has been cancelled and your credit card refunded. The
refund may take a few days to appear on your statement.

Best Regards,

Caroline Schrader

Hope this can help you
Campbell Ritchie
Sheriff

Joined: Oct 13, 2005
Posts: 39044
    
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Welcome to the Ranch

There is a common practice when you pay by card, that there is a tick-box already ticked, so it defaults to “keep my subscription going”. I know a lot of people who are annoyed about that. I suspect it is counter-productive, that the companies garner lots of bad feeling when people find it awkward to cancel.
I once had the opposite problem, where I wanted a subscription to continue, and it was cancelled because I had a new card and the details didn’t get through properly.
Rong Lei
Greenhorn

Joined: May 09, 2012
Posts: 2
Thank you! I've received lots of help in Ranch before, so I just wanna help others
Vikram Ramaswamy
Greenhorn

Joined: Mar 21, 2009
Posts: 9
Campbell Ritchie wrote:Welcome to the Ranch

There is a common practice when you pay by card, that there is a tick-box already ticked, so it defaults to “keep my subscription going”. I know a lot of people who are annoyed about that. I suspect it is counter-productive, that the companies garner lots of bad feeling when people find it awkward to cancel.
I once had the opposite problem, where I wanted a subscription to continue, and it was cancelled because I had a new card and the details didn’t get through properly.


I think the powers-that-be at the ranch ought to take a stand and let their sponsors know that they need to allow people to opt out of auto-renewals at subscription time and not make us jump hoops to cancel auto-renewal...I am considering subscribing to learnnowjava after learning from the newsletters, but will take my business to any other honest service provider with more upfront sales practices. Any suggestions, please?

I got a response from them today that the subscription has been lowered to $49/yr the rest of this month. Here's my question and their response about auto-renewals. The videos look good, but I don't like encouraging these bad sales practices...

3) Auto-renewal: I really do not like being forced into this auto-renewal business and usually skip any service provider that chooses to offer this without an opt-out option, but I am considering your site because it was promoted by coderanch (I trust them).
You can cancel your subscription at any time to remove the auto renewal. When you cancel the auto renewal is removed and you will retain access for the remainder of your subscription year. If you chose to renew the fee would be whatever the listed price is on our website at the time of purchase.
Jay Orsaw
Ranch Hand

Joined: Jun 14, 2011
Posts: 356

I got it for 50$ lets hope it's good!
Stefan Vlad
Greenhorn

Joined: Jul 17, 2013
Posts: 1
They seem to have a lot of Java EE video content. Wondering if the $50 sale price is worth it?
 
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