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Alternatives to SCEA/OCMJEA?

Renzo Rognoni
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Joined: Jul 29, 2011
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Hi everyone ^^

I'm interested in SCEA, but the new Requirements force me to attend (and pay ) courses with pour contents (like Developing Applications for the Java EE 6 Platform (FJ-310-EE6) - i'm quite sure to know the 80-90% of contents). I'm wondering if is there any valid alternatives, especially for an agile working context

Thank you in advance
Farbod H Foomany
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Joined: Feb 29, 2008
Posts: 63
Very good question.
I don't have the answer and I am interested in it too. I need an architect certification and not necessarily Oracle something.
I looked into Microsoft architect, path, and it is too long and bumpy. You should get Master and before that take many other exams.
I know about IBM SOA, IEEE certifications and Object Management Group certifications.
Are there a set of non-microsoft, non-oracle certifications that take us there?
Arnold Reuser
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Joined: Nov 20, 2003
Posts: 194
It depends on your role. If you would like to move into the architectural space.
You can differentiate between certificates that are solution architecture oriented like OCMJEA for Java EE and OCUP for UML
And certificates that are enterprise architecture oriented like TOGAF and Archimate.
Combining these types of certificates will provide you a broader view and, at the same time, help you shape an architecture that is realistic.
Ofcourse a certificate can't replace actual practice . But it can help you get a good grip on the frameworks and methodologies available.
Renzo Rognoni
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Joined: Jul 29, 2011
Posts: 3
tnx for the advice

indeed TOGAF is a good model in Enterprise solution, but in my opinion is quite hard to apply to "fuzzy customer". I prefer something closer to agile manifesto.

I'm looking for a certification that proves the knowledge of concepts written in M. Fowler / Evans / GOF 's books and the capability to draw a good custom solution (especially clean and far-sighted solution) even in a complex scenario.
Arnold Reuser
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Something like scrum ... ?
Renzo Rognoni
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Joined: Jul 29, 2011
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yes scrum or kanban... or any workflow agile oriented
Arnold Reuser
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Joined: Nov 20, 2003
Posts: 194
I took the course of Jeff Sutherland last year and got certified There are some pro's and cons related to scrum
But this has not that much to do with scea
Farbod H Foomany
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Joined: Feb 29, 2008
Posts: 63
I hadn't heard about TOGAF and Archimate. I googled a little and they seem to me to be very much reliant on specific modeling techniques. But are there other Java EE certificates that measure the knowledge of common tools and frameworks?
Arnold Reuser
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Something like Spring.... ?
Have a look at http://www1.springsource.com/training/certification
 
 
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