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Narasimham Varanasi
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Joined: Apr 06, 2011
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Hello guys . I recently started learning java for the past 7 months.I completed core java black book,head first java ,now going through K&B .I still have doubts and when i see a new code it throws me into confusion.IS it normal or am i PARANORMAL. How cum people are able to learn java in 10 days and prepare for certification in 20 days and get certified in no time.

WELL its taking days and months for me .........How are other human beings able to manage.i am struggling to complete the chapters successfully .... Can any one guide me whats the proper process.I do even practice the code. well guys tel me any tips and tricks ...........
Seetharaman Venkatasamy
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Narasimham Varanasi wrote:IS it normal

Yes, Its normal.
Narasimham Varanasi wrote:
How cum people are able to learn java in 10 days and prepare for certification in 20 days and get certified in no time.

shall we call them as magician?
Narasimham Varanasi wrote:well guys tel me any tips and tricks

stay here in javaranch;watch the discussions and ask doubt if you have any!
Narasimham Varanasi
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Thank you for the reply

I do not know how to react but i feel like a IDIOT.

all suggestions are welcome...

Suhas Mandrawadkar
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Joined: Jul 21, 2007
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Don't worry K&B will confuse you a lot. But that makes certification quite easy later ;-)


Regards, Suhas S. Mandrawadkar.
Certifications: SCJP 6, SCWCD 5, Oracle WebLogic Server Administrator, OCE Java EE 6 EJB Developer
Jagadeeswara Yaramala
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Joined: Jul 28, 2010
Posts: 46
I am in the same boat..!!

I am preparing for the exam for the last 3 months. Still not confident enough to take the exam.

My problem is that I read one chapter of K&B, work out the code, take test at the end of the chapter and then I go to the next chapter.
After the next chapter, I tend to forget the concepts of the first one and it goes on....

It seems I have more of stack based memory than heap based one...finally, all of what I read and understood gets garbage collected.

I have 5 years of IT experience and never faced much of a problem at work.
But, it seems, preparing for an exam like SCJP/OCPJP is a challenging one for me.

Hope to clear the exam in a month or so...!!
John Stark
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Joined: Jul 19, 2011
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I did two Java courses at University and feel like a beginner reading the K & B book ...
Sam Hazim
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Joined: Jul 19, 2011
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There are a lot of concepts and intricate details to remember, but don't worry about not retaining absolutely everything as you go from chapter to chapter. On the second run through the topics the concepts will be reinforced (as you've learnt/understood them already) and once you've run through the material a few times you only need to really work hard at remembering your most confusing/forgetful aspects. The majority of the material should be second nature by then, so you're only really memorising a small number of details, rather than absolutely everything.
Deepak Bala
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Everyone is different. Depending on how quickly you can grasp the concepts, you can take a stab at the exam.

The important thing is to learn something from your experience of sitting down to write this exam. It is IMHO more valuable than the certificate itself. That is the stuff that can get you through an interview.

Dont lose heart and work hard


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Narasimham Varanasi
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Thank you.
Rahul Sudip Bose
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Narasimham Varanasi wrote: How cum people are able to learn java in 10 days and prepare for certification in 20 days and get certified in no time.


either those guys are super geniuses (and not all can be like that) or they are people with a lot of previous programming experience in java or some other oo language.

for tips and practice, see the certification results section of this site. one imp tip - make a LOT of code to practice. find q in books, sites, make your own...only that will teach you new things and help you to remember & understand the concepts.

good luck.

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Scotty Mitchell
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Joined: Aug 09, 2011
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I just started studying for the cert a couple of days ago reading a chapter a day out of the K&B book and taking the self tests...I will have to say that it is very possible to learn java in 10 days syntactically, understand concepts, and get certified in less than a month without OO experiance. I think you WOULD need some experiance whether it be C or even Basic or at least know how a For loop works. However, with that said it doesnt mean you will be a good programmer. Perhaps you can't memorize stuff out of a book, but maybe you can still program any assignment given to you with references. What I'm trying to get at is everyone has different strengths, and weaknesses SOOOOOOO GOOD LUCK on your exam prep!!!

ps. I graduated with a cs/math degree, and I still have trouble with some of the self tests haha
Tommy Delson
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Joined: Apr 13, 2011
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Indeed the Cert required some sort of experiences in programming regardless what languages. Doesn't matter how long you have experience and know Java, what matter is how well you understood Java and how well you prepare for it.

I passed the Cert after 2 months of preparation, it didn't stop there once I got the Cert. I'm continue to enhance my knowledge, skills, reinforce, and move to the next level by helping other fellows in this forums. Only knowledge is matter, the Cert and the score don't matter!

Here is the tips that I posted that may help pass the exam:

http://www.coderanch.com/t/538438/sr/certification/passed-SCJP-tips

Important: Coding, coding, coding, coding, and coding every concept you got from the book not only in one way, but in many different ways. The real exam will test you on that.

Whether you new or experienced in Java this technique will help you master the language and gain more experiences and knowledges.


Good luck...hope it help!


You can find me in other forums like Spring & Wicket.


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fadi aboona
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Joined: Apr 25, 2010
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Hi all,

I don't know what's wrong with me! i usually study everyday after 10 hours of stressful, mind tiring full time job during the day i study for about 4 hours. When i study i make sure i understand everything i read, do the exercises, go online for more resources if i don't understand something but when i move on to the next chapter sometimes i find it hard to remember what i studied in the previous chapters!

My diet is ok, i cut down on smoking significantly because i truly think is draining all the oxygen from the brain, i started taking B12, Zinc and Vitamin C and i see some improvement.

Thanks,
kris bako
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Joined: Jul 28, 2011
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what i found while preparing for this cert is, that understanding is not enough. you totally have to get it. this exam is different to any i have taken where you usually can get by with understanding the problem and knowing a little here and there. so you can go over the book as often as you like, but if you don't get it, nothing will happen.
for instance, when it came to the Exceptions, it all made sense to me reading through the material but if i would have asked myself honestly "can you answer any question related to this subject ?", i would have had to say "No". I only got through this with lots of coding and being able to answer exactly why every scenario worked the way it did.
i do not know how you can get to cert level in 20 days. having to learn all the APIs, especially when it comes to Collection, is a buckload.
fadi aboona
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kris bako wrote:what i found while preparing for this cert is, that understanding is not enough. you totally have to get it. this exam is different to any i have taken where you usually can get by with understanding the problem and knowing a little here and there. so you can go over the book as often as you like, but if you don't get it, nothing will happen.
for instance, when it came to the Exceptions, it all made sense to me reading through the material but if i would have asked myself honestly "can you answer any question related to this subject ?", i would have had to say "No". I only got through this with lots of coding and being able to answer exactly why every scenario worked the way it did.
i do not know how you can get to cert level in 20 days. having to learn all the APIs, especially when it comes to Collection, is a buckload.


Kris,
i'm not trying to be certified in 20 days but rather i'm taking the time to learn and apply properly. For example, i spent 2 hours on one exercise yesterday to make sure i fully understood different scenarios.

Thanks,
 
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