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Deepak Bala
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Neat experiment this



Paul,

A link to this on your permies site might be relevant.


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Ernest Friedman-Hill
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Wow, that stuff is horrible; Google it and look at the MSDS. OK, fine, buying organic from now on.


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paul wheaton
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We've linked to it several times at permies now.

Just think: that is just one chemical out of hundreds. Most of the stuff I'm working on is about how even "organic" is kinda lame.

How come your youtube thingie didn't work?


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Ernest Friedman-Hill
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paul wheaton wrote:
How come your youtube thingie didn't work?


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Pat Farrell
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paul wheaton wrote:Most of the stuff I'm working on is about how even "organic" is kinda lame.

Yes, "organic" is a stupid word. First, its a perfectly good word with a well defined meaning that was misused in the 1940s or so to mean something completely different. Then, the term, even as used by the tree huggers, is meaningless -- too vague to help anyone make informed decisions. Its purely a marketing buzzword that spawns confusion and jacks up prices.

We need a new word, one that is coined for what we want it to mean.

This, of course, assumes we know what we want our new "organic" word to mean. And I haven't seen anyone even propose a good definition.

On a personal note, since the early years of this century, I have had to eat a gluten free diet. The bad news is that gluten is in d*** near every bit of commercially prepared food. The good news is that I'm eating (thanks to my wonderful wife) a lot of home made food made with fresh ingredients. Its much less convenient, but it has to be better for my body.

paul wheaton
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Although the word has had previous definitions, that isn't stopping folks from squeezing more out of it, and, thus, leading to a variety of confusion.

It is not a purely marketing buzzword. The USDA has strict definitions.

A group is putting something together under the label of AgriTrue which may be a big help.

Pat Farrell
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paul wheaton wrote:It is not a purely marketing buzzword. The USDA has strict definitions.

Your definition of "strict" is clearly not the same as mine.

The USDA does have a definition, but its pitifully weak.

Since this is MD, I assume you won't be trying to tell me that the FDA cares about food. Its only the first word in their name. Sigh.
paul wheaton
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And again, a word that can mean so many things in this context: "weak".

I agree that the standard is ... a low bar. But, at the same time, having a crop get certified as organic can be a long, painful and expensive process.

I find that the FDA and USDA are supposed to be acting in the interests of the people. But instead they seem to work in the interests of a few large corporations, often making choices that favor those corporations over the health/interests of the people.



 
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