This week's book giveaway is in the OCPJP forum. We're giving away four copies of OCA/OCP Java SE 7 Programmer I & II Study Guide and have Kathy Sierra & Bert Bates on-line! See this thread for details.
Hence my question to fellow ranchers is that should I wait for a month or so , so that I get updated MAC PRO ?
Or would this rumours of new MACBOOK PRO continue for another 4-5 months .
I am ready to wait if I have latest Macbook PRO in coming 1-2 months .
MacBook Pro (note spelling) laptops are very fine machines. The accepted wisdom is that if you need the system now, buy it now. If you always wait for the 'newest big thing' you always end up waiting and never buy.
On the other hand, if you don't need it right away, and with the rumors of an announcement so close, it may make sense to wait a bit. Sometimes there's a price drop in the current models when the newer ones come on board.
Either way, you'll be owner of a very nice system.
For a suitable definition of "tomorrow" there will always be a better computer tomorrow. Moore's law and all that.
IvyBridge is unlikely to beat a MBP with the optional discrete graphics card. Or at least, the optional graphics card will be even fancier, faster etc.
For most developers, graphics is simply not very important. It has to be "fast enough" but we don't stress the graphics like
someone doing video editing or heavy duty Photoshop. Netbeans and Eclipse just don't do much fancy graphics.
Along the same lines, I'm wondering about macbook pros with the retina display? I've read a few times that the 17" pros might be going away, that makes me a little bit sad, but really, it's all about the pixels for me.
So, any news on pixel resolutions for the next batch o' pros?
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Bert Bates wrote:Along the same lines, I'm wondering about macbook pros with the retina display?
Oh gawd, I hope not. More smaller pixels will make everything too small to read. I'm old, my eyes are not what they used to be.
I can see a case to retire the 17", while a beautiful display, it makes the whole thing just too big to move. If you can't move it, get a desktop, they
are cheaper and more powerful. I got the 15" MBP because I need to move it, and 17 is just too big, IMHO, YMMV, etc.
I have a 13" Mac Book (thats all I could afford) Initially I had thought 13" was too small. Earlier I was running Ubuntu on a 15" Compaq. Now I am so used to the 13", everything else now seems unnecessarily larger!
I have a 17" and I don't find it too big at all. But I guess it's just all what you're used to.
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My almost-five-year-old 17" pro has been around the world - safely traveling in it's Brenthaven backback. I got used to lugging it around (Europe several times, Aussie-stralia, NZ a couple of times, Japan, Canada...)
But if a 15" came out with tons o' retina-esque pixels I'd be a happy boy.
It's time for me to buy my first Mac Book Pro. I've started liking Apple products when I ought my first iPhone 4 months ago. I'm sure the Mac Book Pro would amaze me as well. I've decided to wait till the end of the next week until Apple announces the new Mac Book Pro models. I would buy the 13 inch model with the current specifications. I'm waiting just to get the old model at a reduced price. I'm very much excited about it.
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Finally Macbook PRO with Retina Display Ivy-Bridge is here
Following are some important details from the link
Price : t $2,199 and includes a 2.3GHz quad-core chip, 8GB of RAM and 256GB SSD.
Apple has also announced 512GB and 768GB SSD MacBook Pro models.
The new MacBook Pro is 0.71 inches thick, weighs 4.46 pounds and uses Apple's latest Retina display technology.
Bear Bibeault wrote:I can't remember the last time I hooked up to Ethernet. WiFi seems to work fine for me. But I can understand a little trepidation at cutting the cord.
My MBP is plugged into GigE right now. WiFi is OK, but drops out due to microwaves and far too many other things. Plus, even 11N is slow compared to a real wire.
I can easily live without the CD/DVD disk. I use it no more than once a year.
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For $29 you can get a:
Thunderbolt to Gigabit Ethernet Adapter:
The Apple Thunderbolt to Gigabit Ethernet Adapter lets you easily connect to a high-performance Gigabit Ethernet network. Small and compact, it connects to the Thunderbolt port on your Mac computer and provides an RJ-45 port that supports 10/100/1000BASE-T networks.
Mark Spritzler wrote:Pat. I like you, but have you ever noticed that you always focus on the negative parts?
I'm a grumpy old man. I earned it.
Mark Spritzler wrote:This new Retina display MacBook is revolutionary. They rethought the entire laptop, and came up with the most in-genuis ideas, and you care about an ethernet cable? or dongle? Please.One thing that no one also mentions, THERE IS NO DVD Drive. YEAH!!!. The network cable and DVD are parts of my MacBook that I never ever use.
I see nothing revolutionary about a better display. It was expected. For some reason, laptop displays have stagnated for years at the same resolution. Desktop video cards have gotten much better, faster and cooler each year, but no improvement on laptops. Perhaps, if the iPhone's retina display had not been out for two models, it would be impressive, but revolutionary? no way.
I'm fine with no DVD drive. I've been thinking about getting a kit for my MBP that replaces the DVD drive with a second hard disk or even SSD.
Yes, I care a lot about dongles. Back before most folks on the Ranch were programming, all laptops had dongles and they were a royal pain in the rear. Always getting lost, always getting broken. If it had the "magic magnetic" connection that all MacBooks have for their power supply, then I'd be happy. But something you stick in that uses early 1990 technology is simply not revolutionary in my book.
Eight cores with 16 hyperthreads, 32gb of RAM, and you would be starting to be a serious improvement.
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From the parallel thread...
I have to say that "on paper" I'm a bit disappointed with the new display. They use "pixel doubling" so in terms of extra real estate compared to my 5 yr old 17" 1680 x 1050, the best they can improve it is at 1920 x 1200, but that resolution is somehow "dithered" and I'm afraid it's not going to be crisp... sigh.
I may be one of the select few that think removing the optical drive is a bad idea. At least from a consumer perspective. I know Apple wants customers to buy/rent movies from iTunes as well as music. I can probably live without using it as a DVD player since iTunes is going to be streaming 1080p now. But I don't buy music from iTunes. I buy CD's and rip them. I'm sure I'm in the minority. The price point is a bit high for me as well, all things considered.
If I were in the market for a new one now, I'd probably just stick with the non-retina display model. But I can appreciate what Apple is doing here. And the word dongle always gives me a chuckle.