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Nipun Bahr
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Joined: Jul 09, 2008
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Hi All,

I started my carrer from a small IT firm.

Recently I came to know that IT firm has shut down, though I have all legal releving certificates from that IT firm.

Now in future whenver my background verification will happen it might give new employer an impression that I presented them with a fake experience and they might take an action against me.

what to do in such situation, kindly guide and share your experiences.
Jesus Angeles
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Joined: Feb 26, 2005
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If your company is a legal company, it would be registered in your government's business registrations, whether they are still open or have closed already. That is what employers will look at usually, instead of like Googling or searching the phone book.

My University has changed name. But I wouldnt worry of future activities where I will list my school name, etc.
Seetharaman Venkatasamy
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Jesus Angeles wrote:If your company is a legal company, it would be registered in your government's business registrations, whether they are still open or have closed already.

but believe me there are companies who dont registered in governement. one of my friend worked in a company(only 8 team members) managed by only one person. and the person has some contact in USA business. even that company dont have name. he worked there almost 4 years , recently left that company and joined major IT firm.

@OP-If you have real experience, dont worry about all these...
Jesus Angeles
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If you worked for such activities (instead of calling it a company, I call it activity) then sadly, it is not a working experience. (Such activities are tax-legal if they dont earn beyond some threshold amount, at least in my country.)

I suggest that you dont put it in your resume. There are a lot more 'real' honest stuff coming your way. There is nothing to gain from lying. You may have a thick pocket, but your conscience will burn you. And if you think that you did it and able to shut up your conscience, I am so sad for you.
Nipun Bahr
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Joined: Jul 09, 2008
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Hi Jesus/Seethraman,

thanks for sharing your thoughts.

first of all I would like to tell you guys that it was a genuine work experience and I dont want to let go that 10 months work period.

I registered my NSR profile and mentioned that IT firm there but not got any verification done by NSR.

My only concern is that it should not cause me a background check failure..that will be worst
Maneesh Godbole
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I wouldn't worry much about it.
You can clearly state that this was a small company/start up and it shut down. You have the documents*. Prospective employers are not stupid. They understand these things happen.
*Do these documents also contain salary slips? Was your tax deducted at source? Do you have a form 16?


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Nipun Bahr
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Hi Maneesh,

Thanks for your reply.

Do these documents also contain salary slips? Was your tax deducted at source? Do you have a form 16


I did not not have salary slips as I used to get the salary via cheques, no TDS/Form 16 either as salary was under the tax limit

But I have all original certifcates given by the company at the time of leaving.
Jesus Angeles
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I think salary slips dont matter.

The employment certificate you said you got, is great.

You just have to deal with the concerned institutions. If that NSR, whatever it is has issues with your case, deal/talk to them. You have to deal with them; not all of them will respond the same way.
Maneesh Godbole
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Jesus Angeles wrote:I think salary slips dont matter.

Actually, in India, it does.
A typical salary slip will have details like income tax deducted at source, PF contribution details etc. By law, to deduct IT and PF, the employer needs to be registered, and the registration number has to be quoted on the salary slip.
Such a number indicates that the employer is not fictitious as the past records can be traced with the relevant government department.
Jesus Angeles
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Maneesh Godbole wrote:
Jesus Angeles wrote:I think salary slips dont matter.

Actually, in India, it does.
A typical salary slip will have details like income tax deducted at source, PF contribution details etc. By law, to deduct IT and PF, the employer needs to be registered, and the registration number has to be quoted on the salary slip.
Such a number indicates that the employer is not fictitious as the past records can be traced with the relevant government department.


Business registration has nothing to do with employee salary slip.

I think it is a plot by employers to have the ultimate salary negotiation weapon, by knowing your previous salary, before they even ask you for an interview. I know this happens a lot on many countries in Asia.
Maneesh Godbole
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Jesus Angeles wrote:
Business registration has nothing to do with employee salary slip.

Are you from India? Do you know what registration I am referring to? Did I explicitly say business registration?

Jesus Angeles
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Maneesh Godbole wrote:By law, to deduct IT and PF, the employer needs to be registered, and the registration number has to be quoted on the salary slip.
Such a number indicates that the employer is not fictitious as the past records can be traced with the relevant government department.


You did not specify what kind of registration it is. So what kind of registration is it that the are referring to?
Deepak Bala
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Hello Nipun. You can mention the experience on your resume. Just tell the employer that the company went south. No harm in being honest.

Maneesh is right about payslips being important in India. A 3 month payslip record is usually asked of employees to verify your salary.

I think it is a plot by employers to have the ultimate salary negotiation weapon, by knowing your previous salary, before they even ask you for an interview. I know this happens a lot on many countries in Asia.


Yes knowing your previous salary is used as a weapon. although I doubt it is limited to Asia. I know many folks in this forum that do not reveal their previous salary to prospective employers to prevent this. They are not from Asia. I dont know any source based on fact that can prove / disprove that this happens predominantly in Asia. If there were, the data would be great to have.


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Nipun Bahr
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hi deepak,

You can mention the experience on your resume. Just tell the employer that the company went south. No harm in being honest.


even I feel that would be the appripriate way
 
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