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SCJP - A Most Peculiar Situation

Pritish Chakraborty
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Hello everyone. This is my first post in the JavaRanch SCJP forums, and going by the look and feel of it, I'm beginning to love this place. Had to get myself registered.
I'm currently doing my Bachelor's/BTech in CS in India, and currently about to enter the 5th semester. Our college has a tieup with this company called TCS(Indians would recognize immediately). Now they're forcing us to give SCJP/OCPJP to continue with them, and this before coming August (before coming semester). I have a bunch of queries and I figure this is the best place to ask -:

1. Do people ever give SCJP before sem 5? Forget sem 5, do people give SCJP while still in college?

2. I have Kathy Sierra/Bert Bates. I have basic knowledge in Java (none in collections and some of the later topics in course, however). Should I directly do KS/BB or should I pick up a Core Java book such as Herbert Schildt first?

3. How much time does it usually take to prepare for SCJP? Due to my somewhat sound knowledge in C++, I was able to smooth over the transition to Java, so I do have some amount of basic knowledge. I have June and July free before next semester begins.


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Anayonkar Shivalkar
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Hello Pritish Chakraborty,

Welcome to CodeRanch!

Pritish Chakraborty wrote:1. Do people ever give SCJP before sem 5? Forget sem 5, do people give SCJP while still in college?

Well, I haven't seen anyone doing SCJP in college. Yes, I thought about doing it - but somehow, I felt its not necessary (e.g. what if a company recruits me and put in C++?). I think its a little heavy, but not very much.

Pritish Chakraborty wrote:2. I have Kathy Sierra/Bert Bates. I have basic knowledge in Java (none in collections and some of the later topics in course, however). Should I directly do KS/BB or should I pick up a Core Java book such as Herbert Schildt first?

Schildt's book is not certification oriented. Sierra & Bates book is more than enough for anyone having basic ideas about OO concepts.

Pritish Chakraborty wrote:3. How much time does it usually take to prepare for SCJP? Due to my somewhat sound knowledge in C++, I was able to smooth over the transition to Java, so I do have some amount of basic knowledge. I have June and July free before next semester begins.

Generally, it should take around 6-8 weeks, depending upon your initial level of comfort and time. Now, since you already have done basics of Java and you can dedicate all of your time for certification, so I guess 6 weeks is quite comfortable for you.

Just one suggestion - do not keep on comparing concepts in C++ and Java. It will not help you (at least in SCJP) and it'll take your time.

I hope this helps.

All The Best!


Regards,
Anayonkar Shivalkar (SCJP, SCWCD, OCMJD, OCEEJBD)
Pritish Chakraborty
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Thank you so much, Anayonkar! I have ordered KS/BB in paperback format (I had the pdf) today. I will get started as soon as it arrives - in the meanwhile, should I look through Core Java by Cay Horstmann (a lot of the basic topics are covered there) since you say that HS is not recommended?
I'm guessing I'll give it in the end of July or thereabouts then. And I will be careful from now on to not compare C++ and Java! I seem to prefer C++ a lot more, though many functions are easily available in Java courtesy different classes and packages
If there is any more information anyone wishes to give me (tips), they can do so. I did go through the SCJP FAQ here.
Anayonkar Shivalkar
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Well, Horstmann & Cornell's book is the excellent book for Core Java, however, it is not a book one should read in hurry. The book is quite large (2 volumes) and takes time and patience to go through it. On the other hand, the book is heaven for someone who has switched from C++ to Java. Some of the major design differences are discussed in detail along with reasons etc.

As of now, I would suggest to stick to only one book (e.g. Sierra & Bates).

But if you are more serious about Core Java, then once you are done with SCJP, do not hesitate to invest in Core Java Volume I & II (Horstmann & Cornell), and Effective Java (Bloch) - these are the must have books for any Core Java developer.

I hope this helps.
Pritish Chakraborty
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Aye cap'n! Certification first, pleasuring mental faculties later.
Your tips have certainly helped
Anayonkar Shivalkar
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You are welcome.
 
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