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saloni jhanwar
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Last night at midnight i was when a thought came in my mind after reading a post at scjp forum.

That what was that reason so there is a hardcover edition of K&B 6 is on sell on amazon ?

Why did K&B think to release hardcover edition ?

What will be use of that hardcover edition ?

And who will buy that ?

Softcover is of 385 bucks and hardcover is of 2263 !!!

and i got the reason

K&B really care and think for their readers, they always try to simplify things.If readers don't get any concept after reading it then they've an opt and then THAT HARDCOVER yes THAT "HARDCOVER OF 2263 BUCKS " comes in picture and readers can use it to poke forehead.

Now guys its your turn to tell reasons


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Vishal Hegde
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Did you tried purchasing from the your nearby bookstore? Its in affordable price


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saloni jhanwar
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Vishal Hegde wrote:Did you tried purchasing from the your nearby bookstore? Its in affordable price


Why i will buy ??
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I mean k&b has indian distributoion too.you can get the book as per the Inr price rathr then purchasing from amazon
saloni jhanwar
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Vishal Hegde wrote:I mean k&b has indian distributoion too.you can get the book as per the Inr price rathr then purchasing from amazon


You didnt get this post, read mentioned post of scjp forum. i dont need i have.
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saloni jhanwar wrote:Why did K&B think to release hardcover edition ?

Generally, authors don't decide how the book should be printed. It's publisher's decision.
saloni jhanwar wrote:What will be use of that hardcover edition ?

Generally, hardcover books are sought after by libraries - where a book is exchanged among lot of hands during very short duration - there, sturdiness of a book comes into picture.

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saloni jhanwar
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Anayonkar Shivalkar wrote:
saloni jhanwar wrote:Why did K&B think to release hardcover edition ?

Generally, authors don't decide how the book should be printed. It's publisher's decision.
saloni jhanwar wrote:What will be use of that hardcover edition ?

Generally, hardcover books are sought after by libraries - where a book is exchanged among lot of hands during very short duration - there, sturdiness of a book comes into picture.


I think my college was poor i never found any hardcover book there.and by the way for a library it will be always better to buy 7 books for students than 1 book
Bert Bates
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I can share a little about how the publishing part of the process goes, from the author's perspective:

- We create a contract with the publisher (and most of this would be very similar for all the major US publishers).
- The publisher decides on whether the US edition will be softcover or hardcover - we can have a little inout into the book's US price.
- The publisher creates a separate agreement with foreign publishers.
- The foreign publishers make ALL of their own decisions about how to print the book, the quality of paper, hardcover, pricing and so on.

So Kathy and I don't have any input as to what happens with foreign editions of the books. Sometimes, someone sends us a copy, but for instance, I've never seen a copy of K&B that was printed abroad (that would be nice actually ). I have been sent lots of foreign Head First books though - that's really fun, especially the translations.

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Oh, also, you should understand a little bit about author royalties...

For most computer book authors, it works something like this:

When someone pays $40 for a book at the store or on Amazon, the author gets about $2.

That similar ratio holds true for foreign editions - if they are cheaper to buy, the author's royalty will be correspondingly smaller.

Of course from book to book those ratios might vary a bit, but 5% of retail is a decent rule of thumb for an author's royalty.
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saloni jhanwar wrote:

That what was that reason so there is a hardcover edition of K&B 6 is on sell on amazon ?

Why did K&B think to release hardcover edition ?

What will be use of that hardcover edition ?

And who will buy that ?

Softcover is of 385 bucks and hardcover is of 2263 !!!


To make this clear- the Rs. 365 is the Indian edition and the Rs. 2263 is the imported edition. As Bert said its about $40.


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Rameshwar Soni
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Bert Bates wrote:

When someone pays $40 for a book at the store or on Amazon, the author gets about $2.



But how does the author comes to know whether a person has purchased his/her book from Amazon or from any book shopkeeper.
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As with everything that you buy in a shop, there's a chain of sellers and buyers. Amazon and book shops buy their books from a publisher or distributor, which gets a certain amount of money per book. The publisher or distributor pays part of the money received for each book to the author. The author doesn't need to know exactly who exactly bought each book from whom and for what price.


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Rameshwar Soni
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Jesper de Jong wrote:As with everything that you buy in a shop, there's a chain of sellers and buyers. Amazon and book shops buy their books from a publisher or distributor, which gets a certain amount of money per book. The publisher or distributor pays part of the money received for each book to the author. The author doesn't need to know exactly who exactly bought each book from whom and for what price.


I agree with this, but what i was asking is that when the author completes his/her writing i.e. all the contents which he/she wants in his/her book, then the contents are given to the publisher for publishing, but what if the publisher tells the author that he has published or made 500 books but actually in reality the publisher has published or made 1000 books and gave them to different shops. (through all that distributor etc..)

Now publisher pays the author only for 500 books(when the books are sold) but in reality 1000 books are sold and the publisher keeps the remaining 500 books profit to himself.

I know there are all those things like contract etc between the publisher and author but i had the above doubt so its great to know how things happen between these 2 peoples.

Thanks........
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It just comes down to that the author needs to trust the publisher not to short him or her on royalties.


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Bert Bates wrote:Oh, also, you should understand a little bit about author royalties...

For most computer book authors, it works something like this:

When someone pays $40 for a book at the store or on Amazon, the author gets about $2.

That similar ratio holds true for foreign editions - if they are cheaper to buy, the author's royalty will be correspondingly smaller.

Of course from book to book those ratios might vary a bit, but 5% of retail is a decent rule of thumb for an author's royalty.


This is so true and so unfortunate (for most technical book writers anyway)

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Most of the publishers I'm familiar with allow authors to audit (review) their accounting records. Now, such audits seldom happen, but every once and a while they do. In general publishers wouldn't survive if they consistently cheated their authors.
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