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Baseet Ahmed
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All,

May I know that which countries are having more than one name in terms of regional languages.

I know about 1 country:

-HIND (Arabic, Urdu)
-INDIA (English)
-BHARAT (Hindi)


Other ?


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Campbell Ritchie
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England, Wales, Scotland and Ireland.
Henry Wong
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I am actually not sure what the topic is here. Is the question the number of languages in a country? Or the different names for the same country, as referred to by the different languages?

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John Jai
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Campbell Ritchie wrote:England, Wales, Scotland and Ireland.

Britain represents whole of this (except Ireland)? Or it's the United Kingdom?
Joanne Neal
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I think he's asking for countries that have more than one recognised language and each language has a different word for the name of the country.
So, the country north of England has both English and Gaelic speakers and is known as Scotland in English and Alba in Gaelic.

I expect Spain has different names in it's various recognised languages - Catalan, Basque, Galician, etc


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Baseet Ahmed
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Or the different names for the same country



Yes. Same country with different names based on various languages in that country or globally.

England, Wales, Scotland and Ireland.


Are these really same country's name ? If yes, then in how many languages they are named like English,Arabic, or French or Farsi etc.

I have given the country name with 3 different languages.


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Joanne Neal
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John Jai wrote:
Campbell Ritchie wrote:England, Wales, Scotland and Ireland.

Britain represents whole of this (except Ireland)? Or it's the United Kingdom?

Britain is a fairly vague term that means different things in different contexts.
Great Britain is the largest of the British Isles. It is made up of mainland England, Scotland and Wales.
The British Isles is the group of islands to the North West of mainland Europe that includes Great Britain and Ireland as well as a large number of smaller islands.
Ireland is the second largest of the British Isles and is made up of Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland (this is from a British perspective, others may disagree).
The United Kingdom is formally known as the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland but does actually include a number of the smaller islands as well.
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Baseet Ahmed wrote:Yes. Same country with different names based on various languages in that country or globally.

If you are talking about any language (rather than just those spoken in the country itself) then I doubt there is any country that has the same name in every language.
Baseet Ahmed
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No. I am not demanding every language. It is next to impossible (I guess) to find country with name by every language. So dont just doubt, it is sure!!!

I just shared 1 country named with 3 different languages which I know.

More interestingly, out of these, two languages are international languages and declared official languages by United Nation:

English and Arabic.


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Joanne Neal wrote:
Baseet Ahmed wrote:Yes. Same country with different names based on various languages in that country or globally.

If you are talking about any language (rather than just those spoken in the country itself) then I doubt there is any country that has the same name in every language.



Agreed. In the US, I doubt that "United States" is referred to the same in all languages (actually, I know that it is not) -- heck, now I have this weird thought in my head of how my grandparents (when they were alive of course) would even say "United States"...

Also, US is a country with no official language. So, if this is based on official languages of the country, then how to count?

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Henry Wong wrote:Also, US is a country with no official language. So, if this is based on official languages of the country, then how to count?

That's my 'you learn something new every day' fact for today.
Maybe you should count languages that have been recognised as an official language of a state. Apparently there are at least 28 states have laws declaring English to be the official state language.
Jesper de Jong
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The country where I live is The Netherlands but people often call it Holland.

Strictly speaking that's not correct, because Holland is only a part of The Netherlands; Noord-Holland and Zuid-Holland (North Holland and South Holland) are two of the twelve provinces of The Netherlands.


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Campbell Ritchie
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Languages which have been spoken by English‑born people for over 100 years include English, Romany, Yiddish and French (Huguenot), even though only a few people spoke languages other than English. The Huguenot French would have said Angleterre.
I think Great Britain contains four countries, of which the others are Cymru (Wales), Alba (Scotland, as Joanne has already pointed out) and (!!) Kernow (Cornwall), although the last native‑born Cornish speaker died about a year ago.
Ireland is Eire.
Not sure about the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands; I know Alderney is Aurigny in Patois.

In the last 100 years many people have come to Britain from other parts of the world, so there are probably hundreds of languages spoken here, which would have different names for countries.
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I thought you did live in Holland, Jesper. I shall have to look on the map.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_country_names_in_various_languages_%28A%E2%80%93C%29


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I'm pretty sure than when Castro and Chavez talk about the USA as yankee imperialists, they use the phrase "Norte Americano"

I didn't think they mean to insult Mexico and Canada as well...
Jesper de Jong
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Campbell Ritchie wrote:I thought you did live in Holland, Jesper. I shall have to look on the map.

I do! I live in Zuid-Holland.

The point is that many foreigners call the whole country Holland, while it's really only 2 of the 12 provinces that are called Holland.
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Jesper de Jong wrote:The point is that many foreigners call the whole country Holland, while it's really only 2 of the 12 provinces that are called Holland.

Yeah, it's always (too me) seemed similar to calling the UK "England". Does it annoy non-Hollanders as much as the equivalent error annoys the Scots, Welsh and Irish?
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When we went to Venlo last month, we met a teenage girl who said her grandfather was from England, so we asked whereabouts. “Wales”. We told her that was like saying Venlo is in Holland.

To get back to the original theme of this thread (apart from its title ), what happens when you let Francophones into a country? You get Anglophones and Francophones who spell it the same, but pronounce it differently: c-a-n-a-d-a.
And about this time last year I went to another country notorious for having French‑speakers who call it Belgique, and I thought the rest of the country called it België . . . until I got a train to Welkenraedt and found they speak German there (Belgien).
What about Switzerland, where they speak four languages?
For historic reasons, many European countries have enclaves where people speak a different language, and would call the country something different.
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Norway is called "Norge" or "Noreg" depending on which version of Norwegian you speak. (Both versions are official languages.)
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Paul Clapham wrote:Norway is called "Norge" or "Noreg" . . .
So you get two versions of the name in the same language!
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Matthew Brown wrote:Yeah, it's always (too me) seemed similar to calling the UK "England". Does it annoy non-Hollanders as much as the equivalent error annoys the Scots, Welsh and Irish?

Campbell already gave an example, and yes, especially in the northern province Friesland there are people who are proud to be Friesians, so they wouldn't like it when you tell them they come from Holland.

Venlo, where Cambpell was, is in Limburg, the south eastern province.
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I'm from the "thirteenth province", just offshore in the North Sea, working on alien tech from the spaceship that crashed here in the forties.

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Switzerland in its four official languages is die Schweiz, La Suisse, La Svizzera, and Svizra. Its abbreviation CH comes from Latin, Confoederatio Helvetica. That's a lot of names for a small country!
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Jesper de Jong wrote:
Matthew Brown wrote:Yeah, it's always (too me) seemed similar to calling the UK "England". Does it annoy non-Hollanders as much as the equivalent error annoys the Scots, Welsh and Irish?

Campbell already gave an example, and yes, especially in the northern province Friesland there are people who are proud to be Friesians, so they wouldn't like it when you tell them they come from Holland.

Venlo, where Cambpell was, is in Limburg, the south eastern province.
It is interesting how many Teutonic place names are reminiscent of popular American fast-food: Hamburgers, Frankfurters, Wieners, and (the land of) Fries. Of course, Italy has Bologna, and the Leaning Tower of Pizza. And America in Florida has the town of Pensacola (which is not all that different from Pepsi Cola).
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Europe also has a bit of Turkey, though not as much as Asia does. Asia has more mouths to feed, of course, but still Europe is left Hungary.
Baseet Ahmed
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More interestingly, out of these, two languages are international languages and declared official languages by United Nation:

English and Arabic.


Any country name with more than one UN declared official language like INDIA ?

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Switzerland (in German: Schweiz, in French: Suisse) has German, French, Italian and Romans as official languages.

Finland has 6% Swedish-speaking population and (Finnish) Swedish is the second official language of the country.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finland_Swedish

Many more examples can be found across Europe.

What is your point?
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Joanne Neal wrote:I expect Spain has different names in it's various recognised languages - Catalan, Basque, Galician, etc


Catalan and Basque are not different names of Spain. You will probably insult the Catalans by calling them Spanish :-)
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Praveen Kumar M K wrote:
Joanne Neal wrote:I expect Spain has different names in it's various recognised languages - Catalan, Basque, Galician, etc


Catalan and Basque are not different names of Spain. You will probably insult the Catalans by calling them Spanish :-)

Indeed.

However, Joanne said something different; specifically that Basque (and other languages) may have different name for the whole of Spain than "España".
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Now that I re-read it, you're right...Sorry about that Joanne, my bad!
 
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