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Why not outsource software development to other countries ?

Lexington Smith
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Okay everyone, I know this is a emotional issue and will not take sides on it. In my intern, I got $800 per month which is about 40-50,000 indian rupees. Now, I asked some friends from India and learned about developers who know more than me and can do a much better job than me, for
almost the same amount of money. With examples like these in mind and assuming that security/confidentiality is not critical, how can one even argue against outsourcing ?
To be honest, if I was involved in hiring, I would rather get an experienced guy for the Job than a beginner intern like myself for the same amount of money.
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Pie is good.


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I like pie.


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Pat Farrell
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For sure, pie++
Lexington Smith
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Ulf Dittmer wrote:Pie is good.


What ? Is this some kind of zen riddle where the answer is in a pie ?
Lexington Smith
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Jk Robbins wrote:I like pie.


What ? Is this some kind of zen riddle where the answer is in a pie ?
Pat Farrell
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@lexington, do you need two pieces of pie? Or are you just double posting to make your followup louder?
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Lexington Smith wrote:
Jk Robbins wrote:I like pie.


What ? Is this some kind of zen riddle where the answer is in a pie ?


Yes, that's exactly right. Think about it.
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Paul Clapham wrote:
Lexington Smith wrote:
Jk Robbins wrote:I like pie.


What ? Is this some kind of zen riddle where the answer is in a pie ?


Yes, that's exactly right. Think about it.

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Huckleberry pie, a JavaRanch favorite!



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Lexington Smith
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Okay, i get it thats enough pie for now. This thread has been derailed successfully.
Next time, can I get some jelly on my pie ? :P
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Lexington Smith wrote:Next time, can I get some jelly on my pie ? :P


Absolutely! How about some Bear's Nuclear Napalm Chile Jelly? Guarantees that it's one piece of pie you will never forget!

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But @bear, what if he likes hot food?
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This particular batch would still put him to the test!

Even for chile-heads, it'd still be an unforgettable slice of pie! (As well as a very yummy one.)
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I don't recall it being called nuclear napalm chile jelly in the past. Sounds... a little frightening.
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Ernest Friedman-Hill wrote:I don't recall it being called nuclear napalm chile jelly in the past. Sounds... a little frightening.


The heat level of my recipe directly depends upon the balance of the chiles used to make the jelly -- this is the one that I know you've made. That base recipe calls for 50% red bell peppers and 50% hot chiles. This makes for a jelly that's got a good, but reasonable kick.

This particular batch I made with 100% hot chiles to see what that end of the spectrum would be like. "Nuclear napalm" is an apt description!

It's really too hot to be used as a straight-up jelly on things like English Muffins (which I love with the regular recipe), but it makes a superb glaze for roasted meats and fish.

(But I do have one friend who likes to eat it straight out of the jar -- but he's nuts.)
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Sounds dangerous. I think I would outsource the production of such things to a country other than Canada.
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Are there light bulbs in that chilly jelly or is it their natural color ? Wait don't tell me.... the secret ingredient is lava isn't it ?


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Deepak Bala wrote:Are there light bulbs in that chilly jelly or is it their natural color ?

That's its real color as lit from above.

Wait don't tell me.... the secret ingredient is lava isn't it ?

Here's the chile mash before making it into jelly. I guess you could call it "chile lava". And yes, I wear gloves when working with it.

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Just gloves?

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Yeah, just gloves. I like to live dangerously.
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I brought some pie.
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Pumpkin pie is traditional for many of us in North America at this time of year.

Sample recipe here.

Although the recipes you'll often see involve processing pumpkins yourself, the recipes commonly used in practice involve opening a can of pre-processed pumpkin.
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Pumpkin pie from Jack-o-lantern pumpkins just are not right. Plus, running the pumpkin through the food mill to get out all the strings takes time and effort. So opening a can works a lot better.

My family would traditionally have both pumpkin and mince-meat pie this time of year. I liked minced-meat even better than pumpkin.
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Pat Farrell wrote:Pumpkin pie from Jack-o-lantern pumpkins just are not right. Plus, running the pumpkin through the food mill to get out all the strings takes time and effort. So opening a can works a lot better.

My family would traditionally have both pumpkin and mince-meat pie this time of year. I liked minced-meat even better than pumpkin.



Pat,

Be real careful here. Let's not start a pie war... When the moderators talk about pie, the majority are referring to fruit pies. I remember, many years ago, bringing up the subject of shepard's pie, which I really like, and got promptly shot down.

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Pat Farrell
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Henry Wong wrote:When the moderators talk about pie, the majority are referring to fruit pies.


Hmmm, what fruit do you think is the key ingredient of @bear's thermo-nuclear firestorm lava jelly? Or do jelly's not count?
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I'm not averse to meat pies, either... but "mincemeat" is actually a fruit product. Check the Wikipedia article: Mincemeat.

In my family we eat mincemeat tarts around Christmas. It's said that each mince tart you eat earns you one month of good luck. I've got good luck backlogged until about 2037 I think.
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Paul Clapham wrote:I'm not averse to meat pies, either... but "mincemeat" is actually a fruit product. Check the Wikipedia article: Mincemeat.


Revisionist tripe. Real mincemeat is made of meat, typically beef, mutton or venison. Sure, there is a bunch of fruit and spices too.

Google for mincemeat, and you'll see plenty of recipes with meat, and a lot of poo-pooing of the canned/jars of stuff that are only fruit and spice.
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Well, nowadays the world of mincemeat is a big tent which even has space for those antediluvians who still put meat in the stuff.
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Henry Wong wrote:many years ago, bringing up the subject of shepard's pie, which I really like, and got promptly shot down.

Only because it's not really a pie; it's a casserole wanna-be.

The real argument comes up with Boston Cream Pie.



Is it a pie, or is it a cake?
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Pat Farrell wrote:Pumpkin pie from Jack-o-lantern pumpkins just are not right.

Pat is absolutely right. Large jack-o-lantern pumpkins are unsuitable for pie. Pumpkin pies are best made from the much smaller and sweeter so-called pie pumpkins.

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Pat Farrell wrote:Hmmm, what fruit do you think is the key ingredient of @bear's thermo-nuclear firestorm lava jelly? Or do jelly's not count?


Hmmm, now I'm imagining a pecan pie spiked with nuclear napalm. Get the balance of sweet to hot right, and I'd bet it'd be a best-seller!

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Bear Bibeault wrote:
Henry Wong wrote:many years ago, bringing up the subject of shepard's pie, which I really like, and got promptly shot down.

Only because it's not really a pie; it's a casserole wanna-be.



What about a Quiche ? made in a pie plate of course.

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