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Passed, Now what?

Edward Woods
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Joined: Jul 24, 2012
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First, I deeply appreciate the study guide by Sierra and Bates. Without the book, I am afraid I have to spend much more time on the exam.

The following are bulletin points regarding to the exam:

1. There is no drag-and-drop questions on my exam, though I thought this type of questions would be a little bit more difficult than multiple choice questions.
2. Mock exams on the study guide are not easy at all. But the real exam is just OK, finished the exam in less than two hours, and spent another 15 mins to review unsure ones.
3. Some questions (about 5, 6) are very very easy. And some look very easy, but be careful, traps usually are associated with them.
4. Highly recommend two-mins drill after each chapter. I read them many times actually the day before the exam. Very helpful.

One question: I'd like to be an advanced level java programmer. So I purchased a few books about data structure and algorithms (of course, i would recommend Head First Design Patterns as well based on my research on Amazon website. And I own Head First Java book, like it.)
1. Should I go for SCJD now or later, like grad a job first to gain some work experience. (Still a grad student at the moment).
2. How helpful is SCJD certificate?
3. What if I'd like to be an Android developer? Should I stil go for SCJD?

Please comment. Thanks!
Kevin Florish
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Joined: Jan 06, 2009
Posts: 175
These are personal opinions that other ranchers may or may not agree with

One question: I'd like to be an advanced level java programmer. So I purchased a few books about data structure and algorithms (of course, i would recommend Head First Design Patterns as well based on my research on Amazon website. And I own Head First Java book, like it.)

Passing any professional certification is a great achievement, and in your case, while still a graduate even more so, grats!
My personal view of the SCJP/OCPJP exams, is that they get you to focus on the language and its nuances and this leads to a great understanding of the language symantics.

1. Should I go for SCJD now or later, like grad a job first to gain some work experience. (Still a grad student at the moment).


Well until recently the answer would have been a resounding YES. It is fine learning how to do something, the actual doing is a different matter! After I completed the SCJP with no commercial experience in Java, I felt unprepared to venture into a job for Java.
1) At this time I had been a COBOL programmer for 25 years and a consultant for 20 of those. But did I know enough from answering the SCJP exam to answer a lot of interview questions, YES!
2) But if asked to create a simple multi-user application, where would I start? I know all about Java, or I think I do. I passed the test after all, where do I start. I took the SCJD certification!!

2. How helpful is SCJD certificate?


The old SCJD was an unravelling mystery. You read a very brief and terse spec that would make the plot of an Agathie Cristie novel look easy!! Dunno about now, but when I took the exam in 2009, the SCJD forum was a bubbling cauldron of activity. The objectives were particularly challenging in areas such as concurrency. I studied this topic for the SCJP exams and passed without any practical coding. With the old SCJD exams you had to prove your locking mechanisms worked. The best way to learn usage of any language is through application and the SCJD certainly gave me this.

I learned how to code Java with SCJP, I learned how to use Java with SCJD.

Sadly nowadays you have to take a very expensive tutorial to be allowed to take the new Oracle Certified Master Java SE 6 Developer certification.

So you have to balance the cost with what the exam brings to you.

For me taking the old SCJD it was a no-brainer. I learnt more about different practical uses of Java from doing this certification than any other in my studies.


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Himai Minh
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Joined: Jul 29, 2012
Posts: 721
OCMJD is JDK version independent. Taking OCMJD is a good practice to learn more about Java.
You learn something out of it.

As far as job hunting, getting OCMJD may not give you any advantage. Getting a job depends on luck.

 
 
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