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Jan de Boer
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Joined: Dec 10, 2010
Posts: 350
I do not want to be a whiner, I know many people in this world have a lesser job than me, and I will always do my best to do my job.

But, I am getting a bit crazy here. I am working with two colleagues. Both have actually convinced the CEO they should be my manager. The total number of people in our software team is 3. That is crazy enough, but that is not the subject now. These two are constantly 'duo programming', they have conversations like, I now initialize this variable to 0. I am in a constant noise. Also they have discussions about subjects that are never cut off. I think after like an hour discussion, they come to minor implementation details, and I frequently say: 'okay, but that is a detail, let's just go to work now'. They keep on talking, and talking, and talking. Little is documented, decision are not made either. Every time the discussion seems to repeat itself.

Don't you think at some moment in time, you have to make the decision, document it, go to work, at primarily shut *** **** up for a moment? Or is this the modern kind of programming?

Anyway, do not worry, I manage, I keep my head above the water. I am not really happy in the morning when I get out of my bed, and should go to work though. I keep this job for half a year and then I move on. This is not the way I like to work.
Jelle Klap
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Joined: Mar 10, 2008
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Pair programming can be very useful in certain situations, but I couldn't stand working that way all the time. Especially not if the other person is a perfectionist that tends to get hung up on debating the trivial, and gets nothing done as a result. I prefer working solo, while listening to music on my headphones. I need music to work to, and it also helps to drown out annoyences in the environment

I woudn't just pack up and leave, though. You should at least be able to discuss this rationally with your collegues, or maybe with the CEO, and work out a solution.


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Jan de Boer
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Well I am not leaving directly, and I have worked here to their satisfaction for almost three years now. Nevertheless I think this is just a basic disagreement on how one likes to work. A discussion about it will not solve it. I have told them my frustrations a few times. I have not told them, though, I will actually look for another job now. One guy is dyslectic. He just loves to talk, and hates to write. We can talk about that for hours, it is not going to change any facts. Three years is enough. Also I should be working closer together with him more and more. In the beginning I was working more independently.
Joanne Neal
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Joined: Aug 05, 2005
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Jan de Boer wrote:I do not want to be a whiner

Why not ? You're very good at it.
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Jan de Boer
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OK, I admit there are more reason why I do not like my present job. Sorry to be negative.
Maneesh Godbole
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Joined: Jul 26, 2007
Posts: 10172
    
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I can relate to you Jan.
I once worked for a company where people used to play cricket in the office. At the same place, the receptionist used to hog the phone the whole day. And the official mode of communication was shouting across the cubicles...and this was a so called MNC.


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Jan de Boer
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Maneesh Godbole wrote:I can relate to you Jan.
I once worked for a company where people used to play cricket in the office. At the same place, the receptionist used to hog the phone the whole day. And the official mode of communication was shouting across the cubicles...and this was a so called MNC.


Ha ha ha ha ha ha!!! :-D

Oh, what a torture! Well at least you got a smile on my face Maneesh. In Dutch we have a saying: shared misery is half misery. I am not sure if you can say it in English like that. Yeah, sorry I am always complaining though. But really it's the whole package here that is getting on my nerve for quite a long time now. And I fear posting here is my 'exhaust valve'. In my free time I am really not such a moaner.
Campbell Ritchie
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Joined: Oct 13, 2005
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Maneesh Godbole wrote: . . . I once worked for a company where people used to play cricket in the office. At the same place, the receptionist used to hog the phone the whole day. And the official mode of communication was shouting across the cubicles...and this was a so called MNC.
That sounds wonderful No phone calls.
 
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