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Cold Fusion Technology: Is there any future with ColdFusion?

Tushar Bhaware
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Hi,
Today i got opportunity to learn at Ozran Academy. They will be giving training on ColdFusion technology. I want to know that is there any future with ColdFusion? What kind of opportunity i can get?
How it will shape my future?
You can also mention necessary things which didn't occurred to me.


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fred rosenberger
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I think it was pretty much discredited in the late 80's, when it was found the researchers fudged some of their data and nobody else could replicate their results.


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Tushar Bhaware
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fred rosenberger wrote:I think it was pretty much discredited in the late 80's, when it was found the researchers fudged some of their data and nobody else could replicate their results.

hmm. Thank you for your reply. But one question, why then this Orzan comapny trying to build websites with ColdFusion? and Why Adobe still continue their production of ColdFusion framework?
Sorry, i have very limited knowledge on this, i am trying to make sense out of it so i can decide whether or not to join this Course. They are going to offer job to selected candidates.
Matthew Brown
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Fred was joking, I'm afraid. He was referring to Cold fusion, not ColdFusion.
Tushar Bhaware
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Matthew Brown wrote:Fred was joking, I'm afraid. He was referring to Cold fusion, not ColdFusion.

If so, then i think i am little bit relieved. I am searching more information online. If you can guide me on this,it would be very welcome.
Paul Clapham
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But remember that joking is specifically what the Meaningless Drivel forum is for. So if you (Tushar) didn't mean for your post to be the target of jokes, then let us know and one of us will move the post to a suitable forum.
Mike Simmons
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One does wonder why they named their product after such a disreputable antecedent.
William P O'Sullivan
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The best thing to do is check online job boards, and use the key word "coldfusion".

Then compare against other opportunities or technologies. This should give you an idea as
to whether this is a good step or not.

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Tushar Bhaware
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Paul Clapham wrote:But remember that joking is specifically what the Meaningless Drivel forum is for. So if you (Tushar) didn't mean for your post to be the target of jokes, then let us know and one of us will move the post to a suitable forum.

Yes sir. I want actual sincere guidance on this. I wrote this question in MD because i couldn't decide where to put this question. It will be very much appreciated if you help me out with this and put it in appropriate forum.
Thank you.
Paul Clapham
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Moved to "Jobs Discussion".
Tushar Bhaware
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Paul Clapham wrote:Moved to "Jobs Discussion".

Thanks a lot sir.
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fred rosenberger wrote:I think it was pretty much discredited in the late 80's, when it was found the researchers fudged some of their data and nobody else could replicate their results.



The way I remember it, the researchers actually refused to release the data. They were in talks with companies to build a product around the discovery, and hence, felt that the data was secret.

This went on for about a month or so, then some scientists announced that they were able to replicate the original experiment -- and that it was just a standard exothermic chemical reaction, and nothing to do with fusion at room temperature.

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fred rosenberger
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Matthew Brown wrote:Fred was joking, I'm afraid. He was referring to Cold fusion, not ColdFusion.

In my defense, the subject of this thread is "Cold Fusion", not "ColdFusion". and it was MD.

My apologies for the cold fusion confusion.
Tushar Bhaware
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fred rosenberger wrote:
My apologies for the cold fusion confusion.

No need of apologies,fred. It was my fault to put question in MD. Now you know that i am looking for serious answer,you can enlighten me on this one.
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Tushar Bhaware wrote:Now you know that i am looking for serious answer,you can enlighten me on this one.

Not me. I don't know a thing about ColdFusion.

I only know about cold fusion because my brother-in-law is a nuclear physicist and I asked him about it years ago.
Tushar Bhaware
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fred rosenberger wrote:
Not me. I don't know a thing about ColdFusion.

No Problem. I am reading a lot about it on various websites. Here is what i got-
1.CF(ColdFusion) runs on top of Java so large JAVA API is available. Can easily integrate CF with servlet,JSP.
2.It can be easily integrated with .NET also.
3.It also supports Hibernate,Spring,Struts.
4.CF meant RAD.
5.Easily work on database. and a lot more.

Only thing i couldn't figured out is that Will it be wise to switch from Java to CF? and How it will shape my career?
Ulf Dittmer
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ColdFusion -the product- has no future, no present, and not even much of a past in the last 5 years or so. Learning it now is wasted effort; even if your company pays you to do that, there are many more useful things you could be learning instead. I'd question whether it's worth your while to remain at a company so stuck in the past.
Tushar Bhaware
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Ulf Dittmer wrote:ColdFusion -the product- has no future, no present, and not even much of a past in the last 5 years or so. Learning it now is wasted effort; even if your company pays you to do that, there are many more useful things you could be learning instead.

Thank you for your straightforward answer. I was looking for the same,whether good or bad.

Ulf Dittmer wrote:I'd question whether it's worth your while to remain at a company so stuck in the past.

I haven't accepted the offer yet. I thought i will search on it as i never heard of this language/product before.
I have done some searching on this, got some fair number of people supporting the language but those were people who are working on ColdFusion for more than 12 years of time.
I couldn't find it very much convincing. Right now i am working with a start up company. I am the only developer. I work on Java and J2EE technology. No one to guide.
So when i got this opportunity from Orzan, i wanted to get on with it but the language becomes problem. Anyway I will get more opportunities.
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I think Ulf's right. Not many people seem to use ColdFusion generally, and I don't see much sign of anybody using it for new projects unless they're already committed to using it. It's quite a narrow niche, and seems to be shrinking, so I'd avoid getting trapped in the ColdFusion ghetto if I were you. If you want to look at RAD web development tools on the Java platform, look at Grails - it's easy to get started with (especially with your Java/JEE background), it's written in Groovy which is interesting, and you can deploy your Grails applications to any JEE server or servlet engine because it's all built on top of standard Java libraries underneath.


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Tushar Bhaware
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chris webster wrote:I think Ulf's right. Not many people seem to use ColdFusion generally, and I don't see much sign of anybody using it for new projects unless they're already committed to using it. It's quite a narrow niche, and seems to be shrinking, so I'd avoid getting trapped in the ColdFusion ghetto if I were you.

Thanks for your reply. It will help me weighing my options.
 
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