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Jason Richard
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I was creating a consolidated example today to ask the nice folks at the Ranch for some help. While doing so I solved my own problem so THANKS FOR NOTHING!
Steve Luke
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Jason Richard wrote:I was creating a consolidated example today to ask the nice folks at the Ranch for some help. While doing so I solved my own problem so THANKS FOR NOTHING!

Isn't it a great feeling! This is one of the best features of the SSCCE.


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Jayesh A Lalwani
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That's one of the reasons we do thing that look like we make people jump through hoops to get to the answer. We can just give you the answer, but we don't, because we would rather you learn the process of solving a problem.

So, YOU'RE WELCOME!
Jason Richard
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The biggest problem I have is that I know... a bit about most things I'm working on. So when I need to dig deeper into something, quite often everything is at either a very basic level or a more complicated level. And often when people know the concept, it's hard for them to think from a place where they don't know the concept.

Paul Clapham
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Yeah, no kidding. It's very frustrating trying to answer a question from a person who doesn't even know the right terminology for the field they are asking the question about.
Jesper de Jong
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What you did is an example of rubber ducking: by carefully looking at the problem yourself, you solve it.

The idea is that you put a rubber duck on your desk and if you have a problem, you first explain it in detail to the rubber duck. While doing so, you might suddenly see the solution.


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Steve Luke
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And in the programmer's world there is nothing wrong with having long conversations with a rubber duck ;)
Jayesh A Lalwani
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Yea, everyone already thinks I'm a quack
Martin Vajsar
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Jesper de Jong wrote:The idea is that you put a rubber duck on your desk and if you have a problem, you first explain it in detail to the rubber duck. While doing so, you might suddenly see the solution.

Yes, explaining the problem to a duck works much better than explaining it to a cat:



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Randall Twede
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i do this often myself. thank you all for tolerating it. i run into a problem or a bug, try for a little while to figure it out, get frustrated, then post a question. more often than not, just formulating the question leads me to the solution.


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